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05.08.2008, 23:39 | Язык оригинала: Русский #1 |
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Please help identify and evaluate the author's picture. 1. Author - unknown 2. Material and manufacturing technology - oil on canvas. 3. Size 68,5 x 90 cm 4. Established -???. But here it is interesting that two different art-made creation time of the divergence in 70 years ... 5. Signatures, inscriptions, stamps, birochki - no One of the collectors believed that the canvas was whitewashed after nesolko decades after the creation of paintings 6. Condition - slight attrition in the lower right corner. 7. Expert opinion - no 8. Origin of the picture - probably 70 years in the family ... It seems someone has found in the basement of his home ... Examination is not conducted, the owner wants to see an independent, preliminary evaluation (primarily fiction). He turned to the world famous collector in the city (he advised to find a good seascape-expert) to art and to the largest art museum (the second one, from the words of the owner of "scary eyes lit up and he strongly suggested to buy now at once!") I would be grateful for your expert help. Thank you. |
06.08.2008, 06:15 | Язык оригинала: Русский #2 |
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DrOlga, Art assessment? It is difficult to picture this bessmyslenno.Ekspert-seascape? There is not byvaet.Nado to normal examination, only then you can talk about the assessment picture.
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06.08.2008, 06:58 | Язык оригинала: Русский #3 |
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Done very professionally, the first thing that comes to mind - Lagorio. True, he usually signed. But the work is clearly good, you can safely give to the expertise - the cost will pay off.
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06.08.2008, 07:10 | Язык оригинала: Русский #4 |
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I doubt it. If you did not live in Moscow, it is useless.
DrOlga, - .. "to art major art museum" If you can clarify, the situation will be a little clearer. |
06.08.2008, 16:17 | Язык оригинала: Русский #5 |
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Thank you to all great!
And make no mistake: Painting "lives" in Odessa Expertise is carried out in Ukraine in Kiev and Kharkov. The owner appealed to the Odessa Art Museum (the same one of which was stolen in 2005 Aivazovsky) and received a reply - "picture \ 1950, the authorship of a little-known artist from Odessa, and hot offer to buy work at the spot. And asked him not to show now antique dealers, claiming that their price will be greatly understated. One of the famous Ukrainian collector gave a completely different date of writing (1850 - 1900), but to determine the authorship advised in Feodosia. There are still a family bike - that the painting was donated by a little if not Aivazovsky the opening of the Odessa Maritime School, and after the arrival of Soviet power has been thrown into the cellars of the house next door (where it was found the current owners) and her place hung a portrait of someone from the Soviet leaders. Here's the basic information. Of course I would like to at least know something before the examination, so-as is wild disagreement simply alarming ... Thank you! |
06.08.2008, 17:55 | Язык оригинала: Русский #6 |
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This is probably realistic.
[color="# 666686"]Added after 19 minutes[/color] Very practical advice, many questions immediately clarified. |
06.08.2008, 23:26 | Язык оригинала: Русский #7 |
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Thank you!
Here in this matter and, if 1950 - "it is quite realistic," then "good advice" (to determine the authorship of Feodosia) is no longer relevant-a ... If the examiner may or may determine the alleged year of establishment with a precision up to two years, it is strange how some professionals may differ in opinion on the whole century?? One says - is the pre-revolutionary frame, and in Soviet times did not so, and another - claims that have done so only in the reign of Stalin ... (It is surprising how Stalin could influence the style of forming stretcher)) Surely, without a detailed technological expertise can not be determined from the difference in the age of 20 years, for example?? |
07.08.2008, 03:55 | Язык оригинала: Русский #8 | ||
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You should not get excited, but to quietly explore rabotu.Krome Aivazovsky, Lagorio, was a wonderful and talented artist Alexei V. Hansen (1876-1937), grandson of Aivazovsky. (He lived and worked in Odessa).
He was also a beautiful seascape. Therefore Theodosia not eliminated, there is a huge comparative base for these artists. --------------------------------------------- Yes, a frame obviously not stoletniy.No 1930-1940, it is possible. Sincerely Yevgeny. Here's one of the works, bus. Hansen A. Вложение 18635 Цитата:
-------------------------------------------------- ------- Old frame, classic, late 19 th century (like the size of your picture) Вложение 18645 Цитата:
Texture, color of old canvases another. ------------------------------------------------ Here's a site about the artist Ganzene AV, read http://hanzen.ru/?an=index |
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07.08.2008, 07:36 | Язык оригинала: Русский #9 |
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A stretcher is clearly war.
And if we take the basis that the work was written in 900 years, the color of the back side of the canvas does not look like at that time. In fact, these were offset printing factory. And printed reproductions on canvas. And there are exactly the stretchers. Only a backdrop, was usually sealed with paper. And was still in Odessa, an architect, someone Frandetti. Very fond of drawing marina. But as a rule sign. This is similar to his style. |
07.08.2008, 08:18 | Язык оригинала: Русский #10 |
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I would say that the sub-frame "home made", made no carpenter. The size of a fairly large and should be another (or two, as in Eugene) strips in the middle. Paralepiped - is it a "mobile" (not stiff like a triangle), so for rigidity were added (probably plywood) corners at the corners of the canvas. If a frame was assembled joiner, he would have had a wedge for the suspenders of linen as sagging, but they should have special grooves in the tree.
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