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In this case, Kazan - Tatarstan, such as Moscow - Russia.



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Russia.
and its multinational norot ...



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Старый 03.02.2014, 01:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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Of course they do not intersect got out of it , in the same Kazan Art School learned early Burliuk and Rodchenko , for those who
loves new things to remind you that the founder Burliuk Russian avant-garde and this concept was for a long time until 2005 , and one of the most Rodchenko , that neither is a radical avant-garde. really isolated
Province , learned - learned from Feschina until 1922 , and then suddenly become Kazan garde and not step outside the province , nonsense of course, that in 1926 went to Moscow plant "Kazan avant-garde" - the main avant-garde and Platunova Chebotarev , trivia course.
  Look " at the helm of the Mariner " Konstantin Chebotarev neither of which resembles , then look of Russian avant-garde artist - Rozanova if memory serves , 1913 - 15 years , look at Klyuna , Malevich's Suprematist up period. True , all these works were written a decade earlier . And though the roots of any of Ulyanovsk , Samara though with Far vanguard are there. By the way in Perm was Subbotin - Permjak and that this "pregnancy joy " wrote foil still used , forgotten his name , GTG opposite Kulbina hanging , nothing avant-garde . Introduce a new term - Perm vanguard Far more .... Remembered - Palma .
   But seriously Kazan artists an integral and organic part of the very movement which has long name - the Russian avant-garde. http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/2010239/post188645394/
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for me it is the vanguard of the period (...)
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And though the roots of any of Ulyanovsk , Samara though with Far vanguard are there.
There - where is it?

Vobschemto that the word " Russian " , the word " Kazan" only indicate the location and size of the phenomenon and anything more , both introduced exactly for convenience. The essence of things they do not represent . Simply a marker .

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Far from the vanguard
By the way, if such would be , then it would make sense since it and marked with .

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divide the Russian avant-garde is not even on the national and on the narrow basis of the administrative ...
Do not see any attempt to divide .




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in the same Kazan Art School learned early Burliuk and Rodchenko
And Varvara Fedorovna Stepanova <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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in 1926 went to Moscow plant "Kazan avant-garde" - the main avant-garde and Chebotarev Platunova
Well, of course not " impose " just by that time it was impossible to work or live in Kazan , a favorite child - ARHUMAS - defeated , it was school ( ie with a capital letter) , and after the events of 1925 have reduced it to the level technical school for training teachers of drawing. Destroyed all new, fresh and independent . Was not it a place in Kazan ...




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There - where is it?

Vobschemto that the word " Russian " , the word " Kazan" only indicate the location and size of the phenomenon and anything more , both introduced exactly for convenience. The essence of things they do not represent . Simply a marker .
Do not see any attempt to divide .
 Not at all, " Kazan" - means to emphasize individuality, singularity , exclusivity , uniqueness of this phenomenon , and it is the Russian avant-garde. Look , I wrote about Syzransky term " Kazan vanguard" , or rather wrote Galeev - Syzransky found .
  Introduced - a new term , you know ...... for art , and then read what I wrote earlier, why is it happening today , turned out great illustration .
  And for convenience - the Kazan avant-garde artists . All specialists are
 refer to the " Russian avant-garde " art history as a definition, and not territorial , at least from the time of its appearance , and if someone thinks differently , it is a problem of its cultural training .
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From " Moscow" and " St. Petersburg" and so on. vanguards they practically do not overlap
NOT TO -LO " Moscow and St. Petersburg etc. . vanguards "! As there was no " Vitebsk ", although , following the logic of modern researchers have Vitebsk art school formal claim to the high rank of the "center of the non-Russian Avant-Garde" will be more. Why not a "Belarusian avant-garde" ? And what is not a discovery in the history of art ? And so many articles you can write - an entire monograph pull ...

I do not know what I was thinking about the science of history , when it decided to divide the artists and artistic movements are not on the national or " local " basis , and by nationality , and impressionism they - by default - French expressionism - German and Russian avant-garde turned ( because it emerged and developed in the Russian Empire ) . Not considered irresponsible art historians burst of national identity in Ukraine and Tatarstan.



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Not at all, " Kazan" - means to emphasize individuality, singularity , exclusivity , uniqueness of this phenomenon , and it is the Russian avant-garde. Look , I wrote about Syzransky term " Kazan vanguard" , or rather wrote Galeev - Syzransky found .
  Introduced - a new term , you know ...... for art , and then read what I wrote earlier, why is it happening today , turned out great illustration .
  And for convenience - the Kazan avant-garde artists . All specialists are
 refer to the " Russian avant-garde " art history as a definition, and not territorial , at least from the time of its appearance , and if someone thinks differently , it is a problem of its cultural training .
In general, do not understand the essence of the dispute.
Galeev took understudied formation pulled into the light , designed , packaged , hung tag " Kazan vanguard" , invested in short - and now he's the holder of the brand. What can I say ? Good for you !

And someone's Wishlist - well , well, people have the right to choose . Vaughn Deleuze argued that man is a machine desires) )

By the way, Turkestan avant-garde - the term has a right to life ?

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The exhibition catalog introduces the distinctive and striking phenomenon of cultural and artistic life of the USSR - the works of Russian artists who lived and worked in the Central Asian republics in the 1920s and 30s , a combined total phenomenon of " Turkestan avant-garde" .

For a catalog of the exhibition is not distinct and artistic ornate style - is what we need . The text is very accurate in vocabulary and intonation in terms of genre hit. Structurally, the narrative built logically and in proportion : soft historical picture , stories about artists without artkriticheskih ambitious statements. Overall, decent , and I would say , a noble tone . Even the term " Turkestan avant-garde" is introduced carefully and with respect to the invisible opponents.

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" Turkestan avant-garde ", first outlined and labeled with such certainty can be oharatkerizovan as unique organic fusion of innovative discoveries brought to the 1920s on land the future of Central Asia Russian avant-garde young animals . Absorbing the latest trends of the West, and put them in Russia in one of the most remarkable events of the XX century art , they faced here with the ancient and deeply peculiar national traditions of the East . The result of this interaction was " Turkestan avant-garde" .

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MA Chegodaeva .

The basic meaning of Russian artists in the development of art in the Central Asian region was that they did not just participated in its formation , but also brought to this process most modern trends . The result of their work was a unique artistic phenomenon , the authors show here that offer to give the name " Turkestan avant-garde" .

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from the Vitebsk Art School
You just were not Kazan . I advise you to visit .

And Vitebsk art school was established in 1919, if the wiki is not lying to us .

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NOT TO -LO " Moscow and St. Petersburg etc. . vanguards »
There was not there. However, there were localized on the geography of the group to include the e - course to (sic!) to RUSSIAN AVANT-GARDE !

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I do not know what I was thinking about the science of history , when it decided to divide the artists and artistic movements are not on the national or " local " basis , and by nationality , and impressionism they - by default - French expressionism - German and Russian avant-garde turned ( because it emerged and developed in the Russian Empire ) . Not considered irresponsible art historians burst of national identity in Ukraine and Tatarstan .
In scientific ( natural and Humanities ) - "local " definition is common.




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By the way, Turkestan avant-garde - the term has a right to life ?
You read my mind straight , I just wanted to call his Uzbek vanguard . If on a territorial basis , and according to your logic , then yes, if on a national basis , it is not . None of Uzbeks working in the style of avant-garde, I do not know even Ural Tansykbaev - Kazakh. And indeed this painting became known as the vanguard only now, all over the world such artists called modernists .
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