Старый 10.01.2009, 12:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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Samvel, the first is similar to Voroshilov, but want a better picture as to say exactly. Third and fourth, perhaps Siddur, but, again, make a photo better. Eighth - probably Grositsky, ninth - Chubarov, tenth - I know for sure, can not remember the name. If so, and I do not remember - will answer two days later, when I get home.
     
Dear QWERTY! Since the theme of my collecting is close above the pictures I can assure you that the first is not Voroshilov (I'm with friends made it to the exhibition catalog), the third and the fourth is not a Siddur (can call J. Storm, she and her husband engaged in heritage Sidura), Andrey Grositsky can call to make sure that it is not his job. At Chubarova similar, but not more. But the main thing that all these artists - the capital, but the request was about St. Petersburg, the more all of the subscription.



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Dear QWERTY! Since the theme of my collecting is close above the pictures I can assure you that the first is not Voroshilov (I'm with friends made it to the exhibition catalog), the third and the fourth is not a Siddur (can call J. Storm, she and her husband engaged in heritage Sidura), Andrey Grositsky can call to make sure that it is not his job. At Chubarova similar, but not more. But the main thing that all these artists - the capital, but the request was about St. Petersburg, the more all of the subscription.
Thank you, you are right, with the number 3 to number 5 one artist and a number 6
  on number 9 artists signed L'Heureux. Here are a few works signed Taralevich.
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Старый 10.01.2009, 14:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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don pedro, Samvel trying to help, I outlined the terms on which they should seek an answer to a question, I gave several names, next to which there could be the authors of these works, nothing more. I still think that an artist with the signature L'Heureux was well acquainted with the work Grositsky and Chubarova. With regard to the residence of artists, it is unclear why in the Leningrad collection could not be the work of Moscow artists? And the author of the number 10, I'll call when he returned to Moscow.



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The main value of their work lies in the fact that they found the strength to deal with the art, which was considered necessary. The elder of them - Samokhvalov, Pakhomov, Lebedev - in the twenties avngardnye develop ideas, then, moving away from irrelevance, have managed to maintain their individuality, develop their distinctive style. Younger doing something different, innovative, not like the others, realizing that in life any good it can not result. It was a time when the whole country was struggling with "formalism" in art, and most leaders dutifully lining up for rations and titles. Even the great rebels-bubnovovalettsy Mashkov, Lentulov, Kuprin and Konchalovsky steel punch boredom and mediocrity. Sterligov same, for example, passing through the camp, did not abandon its ideas and the end of life developed ideas of organics. Estesstvenno, one post can not summarize all that was best done by those artists, really very different they were. Read books, look at pictures, but if there are specific questions, I am happy to try to answer them.
I tried to read and see, but unfortunately none of the source not found a clear description of the contribution of these artists in the vanguard. But a lot of descriptions of the influence of the Impressionists and Post-Impressionists in their work. Even in dissertations dedicated to the works of these artists are a big part - is a description of who taught and influenced by one's creativity are. About the most creative is very vague, except, of course, the courage not to be like everyone else. But I think the most interesting works in their art work were 20-30-ies, later all became very cautious.



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I do not accidentally called these artists "nice", and this term - not derogatory, no, they call me with respect and great-feeling (sim-patiyu).
But yesterday, revising their heritage, I thought, how strongly and quickly influenced policy on the arts. Immediately after the great vzbleska Russian painting 10-20 years., In the early 30's. Soviet art - with the exception of a few artists, chti beliefs apparently coincided with the formal requirements, see Deineko (which, incidentally, as we recently learned, did not prevent him sit out his term) - suddenly it became a sort of "homespun" - and in general, so it remained.

Art of the Leningrad school artists - a clever, subtle, intelligent art, and it is already very much, especially on those days. But all these qualities did not prevent me feel regret and sorrow when I think that in other circumstances, their heritage could look quite different.



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Старый 10.01.2009, 16:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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I tried to read and see, but unfortunately none of the source not found a clear description of the contribution of these artists in the vanguard. But a lot of descriptions of the influence of the Impressionists and Post-Impressionists in their work. Even in dissertations dedicated to the works of these artists are a big part - is a description of who taught and influenced by one's creativity are. About the most creative is very vague, except, of course, the courage not to be like everyone else. But I think the most interesting works in their art work were 20-30-ies, later all became very cautious.
In general, the way it is: the most interesting work Lebedev, Pakhomov, Samokhvalov created in the 20-ies. Further, as finely observed LCR, they were clever and intelligent, stylistically distinctive, especially against the background of the total mass of socialist realism. But, of course, no brilliant portraits Lebedeva, no talent Draftsman Pakhomov, neither matissovost "Vedernikov can not claim the laurels of the Great first third of the century. Indeed, did not happen the Soviet regime, all of them could form a much more successful, but what happened, deserves profound respect.



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Interestingly, not "Come Soviet power", even more brilliant, great, interesting set up to ... well, even the same Malevich, that ... more ... more ... than "Black Square"?
Maybe just the peak of their creativity and "offensive" coincided in time (in no case do not justify "the offensive of socialism"), but so deep in thought ....
perhaps you should see us now, all his subsequent work and say ... yes, "Malevich "...., exhausted after the French so no one bothered with the now all say that their work was at a standstill, etc. that the Russian avant-garde 20's is something, but that's not happened afterwards, all that happened, it would be something new (I do not know that could even think of) could have gone to then just "variations on a theme ...."



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Interestingly, and not "Come Soviet power", even more brilliant, great, interesting set up to ... well, even the same Malevich, that ... more ... more ... than "Black Square"?
Maybe just the peak of their creativity and "offensive" coincided in time (in no case do not justify "the offensive of socialism"), but so deep in thought ....
perhaps you should see us now, all his subsequent work and say ... yes, "Malevich "...., exhausted after the French so no one bothered with the now all say that their work was at a standstill, etc. that the Russian avant-garde 20's is something, but that's not happened afterwards, all that happened, it would be something new (I do not know that could even think of) could have gone to then just "variations on a theme ...."
I'm in such cases usually say (or rather repeat) "History abhors soslogatelnogo mood !..."



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Старый 10.01.2009, 21:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #19
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Sorry, Sandro, some do not understood your idea: shy:



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Tana, soslogatelnoe inclination - is when speaking about past events, history, use "if ..." and all other "would ...". It's like "reading the kafeynoy thicker, rather than a meaningful approach in this case to the history of art.
In my guess, would be filled up Malevich or not completely pointless: it was Picasso, who lived a long life in art and about every 10-20 years, performing a breakthrough, or, for example, was Konchalovsky, also lived a long life ... The difference is obvious. So, guess that makes no sense. God is his (their) knows ...



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