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22.09.2009, 05:21 | Язык оригинала: Русский #1 |
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Forgery paintings Burliuk at Four Corners
Glanced at the Four Corners of the auction catalog on 11 and once in the eye "Lot 40, Burliuk, house of Van Gogh in you. Today learned from the forum that the work sold. Pity the people who have spent probably a lot of money, because the work does not have the slightest relation to arm D. Burliuk. It's a pity that the Four Corners are short on Burliuk a pity that none of forumchan not talked about it before me. (I saw a catalog yesterday).
Those who behold creativity Burliuk, almost no mistakes. Burliuk very difficult to forge, since losing in the early years of his eyes, he saw the world around you differently. Lack of eye led to that formed in the brain-specific compensatory reflexes (communication), allowing him to see a particular perspective and feel in a particular form and amount of relief. It is absent from poddelschikov, but may appear if they povykalyvayut himself in the eye and inhabit both years with 30. Then may try to spoof. To your attention the first 2 photos from the Four Corners (house of Van Gogh) and the second - from a family source Burliuk (House Burliuk in South Hampton). Well I know the original work, as well as holding her hands. Now look closely at the photo and find the differences 2547895: PS. Judging by the pictures, the house of Van Gogh and the house Burliuk were built by the same builders of the plans of one and the same architect. : D PPS. I think that if a buyer will notice this theme, at the Four Corners will be noise.: O |
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22.09.2009, 12:00 | Язык оригинала: Русский #2 |
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OlegTsi, but what you say about this Burliuk?
The picture at one time went on the market and in St. Petersburg and Moscow, the last time I saw her at the Gelos 4 years ago, how many now recall, purchased it at the time of the 1.3 million rubles from the coppers. Burliuk David Davidovich (1882-1967). "In the Park". Cardboard, oil. 35,3 h46 1920. Signed lower right: «Burliuk». Examination of the State Tretyakov Gallery. |
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22.09.2009, 13:53 | Язык оригинала: Русский #3 |
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OlegTsi, time is taken up controversy, so I continue.
As far as I know, at the Four Corners do not take the work without being checked for authenticity. And Samyang home inspection is the result him.analiza paint layer. Obviously, and this work was subjected to similar analysis. And if the organizers would have had doubts, it would not put up for auction. What Burliuk varied with their subjects, so too the well-known fact. Because of work and have some differences. Although these differences are unimportant! |
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22.09.2009, 14:11 | Язык оригинала: Русский #4 |
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Before making a fuss, a good idea to apply for examination to the professor Dmitry Gorbachev, art historian, an expert in painting beginning of XX century, an authoritative expert on painting Burliuk.
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22.09.2009, 19:32 | Язык оригинала: Русский #5 |
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Well, the house of Van Gogh in Auvers (he probably is depicted in the first scene) is unlikely. But the house of Van Gogh in Mons (Belgium) - he might well: D.
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23.09.2009, 04:34 | Язык оригинала: Русский #6 |
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Burliuk David Davidovich (1882-1967). "In the Park". Cardboard, oil. 35,3 h46 1920. Signed lower right: «Burliuk». Examination GTG
Dear Cyril Syzransky, thanks for the question and trust, nice to meet more closely. Before I answer your question, I want to point out that there was difficult when viewing pictures on the internet with little resolution to 100%of the unilateral withdrawal. On the other hand do not want to make enemies on the forum, which may be the owners of works, which are negotiated. I have my own principle - the more expert opinions, the more doubts about the authenticity of work. One of my friends artdiler to the question of whether there is a certificate that said - "Certificates do not trade, sell art." Many people know how to do certificates - experts in museums on the salaries, so the owner of the pseudo-masterpiece costs nothing for 200-300 dollars to get him the necessary expertise. This was stated by Vladimir Petrov, and this was his main reason for withdrawal from the Tretyakov Gallery. Now requires the services of protection. Now, more specifically, on the picture. Let's analyze. In 1922 Burlyuk from Japan through Vancouver arrived in New York. Before Immigration to Japan - style of avant-garde works, cubism, kubofuturizm. In Japan, 1919-1922 - the rapid development of futurism, through what the Japanese call the father of Japanese Burliuk futurism. 1922 new artist in the United States seeks to create in art is something new, unique. By bringing together the symbolism, ekspressionizm and neo-primitivism, and it creates a revolutionary new style in art - Radiostil. At the same time had stavat on his feet again, to take part in exhibitions, to do everything possible to become famous and to be sold. Immediately followed by a series of joint, and then the individual exhibitions in 1923, 26, 27, 29 respectively. I quote some photos from the period of 21 to 28 years. Interwoven Cubism, Futurism, Cubo-futurism, symbolism, neo-primitivism. Towards the end of the decade there is something porealistichnee. I spent this analysis for what-to show what breathed Burliuk in 20-ies. Ekpert GTG obviously made a mistake in date. This could and finish. But continue. Judging by the frame, the picture was not the ordinary Thomas, then had to buy a canvas and a frame together, or cut cardboard itself. In 20-ies for Burliuk without much money may be easier to acquire simple, often wooden frame (even Rustic, wood, warped rodents). Burliuk often used the framework to complement the meaning of a drawing, always looking to make the frame was in harmony with the painting. It is very rarely used non-standard size frame (multiple inches, which is not in this picture). Again, talk about the box, because of its clear that it was designed precisely for this work, but I think that it depicted a plot in the park not garmoniiruyut. Pity we did not see the details, signatures, and therefore limited in the identification. But already the basis of the dating, it can be assumed that the examination is not accurate, even if they talk about authenticity. If allowed one mistake, it may be another. Summary conclusion - I would not buy this work. PS This is my personal opinion. I do not want to offend anybody. 1 -1921, 2 - 1922 3 - 1922 4 - 1924 radiostil, Harlem River |
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23.09.2009, 04:37 | Язык оригинала: Русский #7 |
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Cyril Syzransky, many photos do not fit the format, too many MB.
1 - 1924, Radiostil, 2 - 1922 3 - 1925 4 - 1928, 5-1928, 6 - 1921 (MOST) |
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23.09.2009, 05:09 | Язык оригинала: Русский #8 |
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uriart, the distinguished Jury, all I wanted to say about working with the Four Corners I said. Another opinion and there can not be. 100%fake. In your message in lichku now I will try to unsubscribe.
Concerning chemical analysis. Imagine how much the auction will cost chemical analysis for each job. How much time should be spent on this? None auction does not do so, including the Four Corners and Bonham's. Auctioneers-traders. They are the main income. Passed room - excellent, but not passed - the client must satisfy the unoriginality of work. |
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23.09.2009, 05:18 | Язык оригинала: Русский #9 |
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OlegTsi, that's just the Four Corners does it.
I had two jobs that I was taking for sale there. Both were rejected after him.analiza. Since not coincide in time. A him.analiz done through client-deliverer. All the examples shown you do not have anything to do with that picture! Examples of 1920. And this work is late 50's or early 60's. Because the difference was. |
23.09.2009, 05:47 | Язык оригинала: Русский #10 |
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uriart, your quote: "I was taking for sale there. Both were rejected after him.analiza. Since not coincide in time." So you admit that there were two works themselves were wrong in the dating. And the work of the period or century?
Taking Burliuk, it also forged in life (people close to the workshop). Even today you can find colors of the late 60 and then chemical analysis will show that? But this is not analysis, here on the naked eye is clear. Apparently the Four Corners did not do any analysis, because the work has been previously sold at Bonham's. Therefore, the Four Corners took it without problems. And the problem lay in the London ... and experts in the Four Corners. |
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