Pieta.Italiya - XVI century? Tell me please. - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Михаил Михайлов · 24.11.2013, 15:14

Dear forum.
Work on copper - 24 x 17 cm oil.
It seems that refers to the Ferrara School - the beginning of the XVI century?
But I'm no expert.
Please help me.
Best regards.
Mikhail.
Character in a red similar to Francis I.

redbor · 24.11.2013, 17:12

This is not the "Pieta", more properly called "The Entombment".

In fact, copper?
Photo turnover plate can be seen?

Михаил Михайлов · 25.11.2013, 01:36

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Кирилл Сызранский · 25.11.2013, 02:27

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It seems that refers to the Ferrara School - the beginning of the XVI century ? But I'm not an expert .

I also never an expert, but the manner of execution is still softer, more similar to the XVII century .
As for the actual dates of your things , then there will study the basics - easily dated copper processing method later copper bases already made by machine and not by hammering .

K-Maler · 25.11.2013, 03:09

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- the beginning of the XVI century?

Copper plates were used in the 18th century because of the similarity with the gold on gold plates wrote earlier (because of the beauty of his tone).

And - was editing?
Halos?

Михаил Михайлов · 25.11.2013, 12:23

Thank you.
Copper sheet has all the signs of forging.
30 years ago wore work in the Hermitage.
They liked it - offered to purchase, but said nothing about the most important thing - clever snobs - about school, analogs, and so on.
Sincerely, Michael.

redbor · 25.11.2013, 13:28

Pay a little, b and heard about the school and about the analogs <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Why was generally worn in the Hermitage?
<! - ~ 9 ~ ->

A copper - good.

Михаил Михайлов · 25.11.2013, 15:55

Work belongs to the family of my friends, and my grandmother went to the Hermitage - blokadnitsa.
Michael

redbor · 25.11.2013, 16:34

Somewhere on copper plates from the 16th century in Italy began to write.

I came across the work of the 17th on copper.

But this painting looks pretty fresh

And why - Ferrara school?
Have any arguments?

May be the origin of things we know?
at least from my grandmother-blokadnitsy?

Владимир Владимирович · 25.11.2013, 16:35

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clever snobs

Thinly said.
<! - ~ 1 ~ -> Probably should go back to the experts.
Already with the money.

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Михаил Михайлов Пользователь Регистрация: 22.11.2013 Адрес: С.-Петербург Сообщений: 52 Спасибо: 91 Поблагодарили 5 раз(а) в 4 сообщениях Репутация: 10	Entombment Thank you. Copper sheet has all the signs of forging. 30 years ago wore work in the Hermitage. They liked it - offered to purchase, but said nothing about the most important thing - clever snobs - about school, analogs, and so on. Sincerely, Michael.

25.11.2013, 15:55	Язык оригинала: Русский #8
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