Старый 27.07.2010, 02:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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Старый 27.07.2010, 08:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #22
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Your the statistics, just 'dry figures, which to me personally nothing govoryat.Da have been selling these artists by high prices do not deny it and over time will be even higher.
Why in the first part of this story leads Azadovsky fact that part of the graphic works of Russian museum bought at once, and these two works net.Vopros probably arose at once, or they have been and are not of high artistic level or ....???? On the last question "or" Reply-examination gave kontsultatsiya timing.

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But do not worry you, Mr.-y, why so nervous, suffer because of some sort of "akvarelek" strangers "" "
Mostly I worry that like you, who do not even know which side the doors open in timing, trying to impose a negative opinion of other forum members.
I repeat once again, to form a just opinion just want the facts, not boltologiya.

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And you reply, as "local practitioner. The most expensive and valuable work is skandalnye.Vladelets makes a series of examinations in various instances, proves the authenticity of the object and its price always increases.
I sincerely wish the "victim" Azadovsky arrive at the truth, but not in police offices and the offices chinovnikov.Istina located in different places.




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Старый 27.07.2010, 08:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
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Why in the first part of this history leads Azadovsky fact that some of the graphic works of the Russian Museum bought at once, and these two works there.
You should read carefully the story K. Azadovsky.
Somehow, even for you uncomfortable ... <!--~ A ~-->[ QUOTE="Mr-y; 1207191"]that like you, who do not even know which side the doors open in timing[/QUOTE]
No, I was in the timing ... was ... the door opened, and even went into the side channel on smoking ... and then he went and top-view images ... [ QUOTE="Mr-y; 1207191"]... trying to impose a negative opinion of other forum members. [/QUOTE]
Nothing I'm not trying, God bless you ...
That you are here foaming at the mouth trying to prove that the experts timing angels with wings ...

I'm not an angel, I have no wings.
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Старый 27.07.2010, 08:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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Yevgenia Petrova, deputy director of the Russian Museum of Science, Ph.D., a very competent critic of Russian grafiki.Ee works are European and world recognition.
In 2005, by decision of the Scientific Council of the State Russian Museum, edited by Evgenia Petrova, a catalog of "Drawing and Watercolours in Russian Culture, the first half of the 19th century, and" Drawings and Watercolours in Russia ", the second half of the 19th century.
I agree with you completely, excellent, knowledgeable expert, but you must admit, purely hypothetically possible situation when deputy director, as the saying .. "he signed without looking" expert opinion (we all are living people)?
 Error Constantine Azadovsky that he ordered the case to an outsider cheloveku.Esli he himself came to Yevgenia told provenance of these works, the history of the collection, perhaps the personal archives of his father (which featured the works), home to old photos and kolletsiey etc, to do with this work would be different .. and the result would be 90%different.

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gouache Sergei Sudeikina (with manure on the back: "Puppet Theatre. S. Sudeikin. 1911"), and watercolor by Alexander Benois (costume sketch for the play by Moliere "Doctor willy-nilly", 1921)
The only option now, the implementation of these works, to offer their well-known collector Peter Aven (the main collector of Russian art of association "Blue Rose", "World of Art), his examination of the Tretyakov Gallery, Russian Museum, in principle, not needed.
Provenance in works great ... (if all is true in the article K. Azadovsky)



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Старый 27.07.2010, 09:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
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The only option now, the implementation of these works, to offer their well-known collector Peter Aven
And that, apart from Avena now nobody Sudeikina with Benoit and not buy already?
Soon already two years of this story:
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In November 2008, two years my work - gouache and watercolor Sergei Sudeikina Alexandre Benois - have been under examination in the Russian Museum.
Interestingly finals history.



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Старый 27.07.2010, 09:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #26
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Here the situation is like in football. Judge credited the disputed goal - even videopovtor it would not cancel. Counted judge these works unreal, so Mr. Azadovsky must take it for granted, or go to other expert organizations and try to oprovernut view the Russian Museum. What will be the most loyal in this situation.
I personally handed over for examination a few works by famous artists with the same "perfect" Provenance. Starting from the high-profile names in which these works were, finishing confirmation relatives. The experts recognized the work of forgeries. So Azadovsky not alone in his disappointment. But if he wants to refute, then let him hold another examination. Not only was it a refutation of cases Appraisal? Another personal example - my work of the artist Leonard Tourjansky GosNIIR considered forgery and issuing a written negative conclusion. Do not believe it, and gave a Grabar. And received positive confirmation of authorship. And the whole process in these two institutions was absolutely clean, without a bribe.



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counted judge these works unreal, so Mr. Azadovsky must take it for granted or go to other expert organizations and try oprovernut opinion of the Russian Museum.
Yes there is a "view of the Russian Museum"?
Nothing was done, even from the frame thing did not reach from under the glass-Filka letter issued, he signed a piece of paper:
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... remember that the examination in the Russian Museum was carried out over two or three days.



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due or to go to other expert organizations and try to view oprovernut Russian Mu
I agree with you, and you have a good example (the same was, and I have), but K. Azadovsky made another mistake:
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I wrote a detailed letter to the Minister of Culture Alexander Avdeev A. ......
In a long letter came a short answer. Its essence boils down to one sentence: "In recognition of your right not to be consonant with the conclusions of experts of the Russian Museum, the Department of Cultural Heritage and Art nonetheless does not question their competence and proficiency." Signed - Robert H. Colo ....
to work to obtain positive expert opinion, will be problematic .. "esprit de corps" ... must sell without examination and all.

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Konstantin Azadovsky :"... a close friend's father was widely known in his time in Leningrad collector FF Notgaft familiar and correspondent Alexander Benois, MVDobuzhinsky, B . Kustodieva M. and others. In the 1930's and Azadovsky Notgaft lived in an apartment on Herzen Street, watercolors, gouaches and oil paintings that fell into this apartment (they were given, usually the artists themselves), each time were discussed, were amateur evaluation and only then found permanent refuge in the wall of one room - at a Azadovsky Notgafta ..."
Notgaft Fridrik (in Russian Fyodor). Born in 1886, received a basic education at the Faculty of St. Petersburg University. Then went to Europe for further education. A lot of traveling, studying works of art and culture of Germany, Austria, Italy and France. He continued his studies at Vyurtenbergskom and University of Munich. The October Revolution had a positive and came back to Soviet Russia in 1918, was active in the Commission for Protection of Monuments. In December the same year he entered a researcher in the State. Hermitage. Admission to the museum in the state contributed AN Benoit, who gave him a brilliant characterization of recommendation. Notgaft justify high confidence in the renowned art critic. Integrated into the development of new revenue pouring into the museum, he showed remarkable energy and efficiency. In those years he was regarded as assistant curator of French and English painting museum. But, judging from the documents, it was he who led the main labor-intensive job of cataloging the fund, drawing up scientific equipment. In the archival documents of the 20-ies constantly emphasizes that Notgaft - a great connoisseur of monuments and methodically works as a scientist.

In those years, bosses and colleagues Notgafta rightly regarded him as one of the best period of development of Soviet art of the Hermitage. He took an active part in the organization of temporary exhibitions, was the creator of a new permanent exhibition at the museum in the light of methodological requirements of the time.

In addition to purely museum work V. Notgaft did a great organizational work in many publishing houses in Leningrad. Including, in the House of Scientists ", in" World of Art ". F. Notgaft was an avid bibliophile and collector. He personally knew many artists of his time. By his contemporaries and his students at the Hermitage, he was a connoisseur of enamel paintings and drawings in Western Europe.

In 1936 in the State. Hermitage was organized by its publishing part (so named in the documents). Was headed by F. Notgaft. It was the biggest event in the life of the museum, because the Hermitage was able to promote their treasures, not only in lectures and excursions, but the printed word.

Died F. Notgaft 4 June 1942 in besieged Leningrad. In 1945, he posthumously was awarded the medal "For Defense of Leningrad
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...903.htm+%D0%A4. +%D0%A4. +%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%84%D1%82 & cd = 2 & hl = ru & ct = clnk & gl = ru
1.F. F. Notgaft. Hood. B. Kustodiev. 1921.
2. Kustodiyev Boris. Portrait of FF Notgafta (Collector).




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Konstantin Azadovsky :"... a close friend's father was widely known in his time in Leningrad collector FF Notgaft, friend and correspondent of Alexander Benois, MVDobuzhinsky, BM Kustodieva and others. In the 1930's and Azadovsky Notgaft lived in an apartment on Herzen Street, watercolors, gouaches and oil paintings that fell into this apartment (they were given, usually the artists themselves ), each time were discussed, were amateur evaluation and only then found permanent refuge in the wall of one room - at a Azadovsky Notgafta ..."
Notgaft Fridrik (in Russian Fedor Fedorovich). Born in 1886, received a basic education at the Faculty of St. Petersburg University. Then went to Europe for further education. A lot of traveling, studying works of art and culture of Germany, Austria, Italy and France. He continued his studies at Vyurtenbergskom and University of Munich. The October Revolution had a positive and came back to Soviet Russia in 1918, was active in the Commission for Protection of Monuments. In December the same year he entered a researcher in the State. Hermitage. Acceptance to the museum staff contributed AN Benoit, who gave him a brilliant characterization of recommendation. Notgaft justify high confidence in the renowned art critic. Integrated into the development of new revenue pouring into the museum, he showed remarkable energy and efficiency. In those years he was regarded as assistant curator of French and English painting of the museum. But, judging from the documents, it was he who led the main labor-intensive job of cataloging the fund, drawing up scientific equipment. In the archival documents of the 20-ies constantly emphasizes that Notgaft - a great connoisseur of monuments and methodically works as a scientist.
In those years, bosses and colleagues Notgafta rightly regarded him as one of the best art formative period of Soviet Hermitage. He took an active part in the organization of temporary exhibitions, was the founder of a new permanent exhibition at the museum, taking into account methodological requirements of the time.
In addition to purely museum of B. Notgaft did a great organizational work in many publishing houses in Leningrad. Including, in the "House of Scientists," in "World of Art". F. Notgaft was an avid bibliophile and collector. He personally knew many artists of his time. By his contemporaries and his students at the Hermitage, he was a connoisseur of enamel paintings and drawings in Western Europe.
In 1936 in the State. Hermitage was organized by its publishing part (so named in the documents). Was headed by F. Notgaft. It was the biggest event in the life of the museum, because the Hermitage was able to promote their treasures, not only in lectures and excursions, but the printed word.
Died F. Notgaft June 4, 1942 in besieged Leningrad. In 1945, he posthumously was awarded the medal "For Defense of Leningrad
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2. Kustodiyev Boris. Portrait of FF Notgafta (Collector).
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