What is art?

[Peter]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

 
But the more I Bach organ stuff and concerts Motsarat not go! Someone happy to go on these concerts. No objectivism! I brought this comparison, as punk rock still far from classic. While Rachmaninov and Mozart to each other are considered closer.

Nevertheless, even if you do not personally go to these concerts, they are still sostoyatsya.I music of Bach and Mozart do not stop being themselves Iskusstvom.Vy confirmed my previous tezis.Bolshinstvo will still go on kontserty.Otsyuda can conclude that an objective indicator of the present art, but time is (now get up on a slippery slope), the art which like bolshinstvu.Ili most specialists in this art?

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

As soon as the efforts of the majority of art experts is strict objective framework, lost the art itself.

Example - the so-called American art.

No I am for complete subjectivism in art.

[Peter]

I think the most correct the following thesis: "Real art is always an objective, but it is always a subjective perception of it."

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Сообщение от Glasha

Art - this is what we have after God.

Who said that? Super!

Сообщение от sur

"Why is the road that does not lead to the temple?" - Remember her grandmother from the film "Repentance"?
Real art should lead us to the truth (God) and /or praise him, and the fruits of his labor.

I think so too

Сообщение от Peter

I think the most correct the following thesis: "Real art is always an objective, but always subjective perception of it."

I guess so!
The question was first - A judge who?
 But no! The biggest judge - is the man himself, who created something. And if he is able to ask yourself, then this shows a certain integrity. To itself it can all tell where the lies and the truth. If the artists, the majority, could, could speak with him, a huge layer of psychosocial problems have fallen from their shoulders. At least they thought would answer this question. That's what "I" did - it is art? And the usual answer would be - "NO!" or "I" did not do it for the concepts and principles - for yourself, and sometimes - "Well finally, here it is!" At this point, an artist or a musician, and so pure and truthful.
And then comes some old "judge" and said that you did the small stuff, and? If a creative person is truthful to himself, just for this not to pay attention. I'm not talking specifically about the canvas, my uncle had done that wine is an art, and when he said: "This it! - It really was it! And for all the - It.
The real art - is of course love! But, let's say, a biblical (not my uncle, aunt). This alliance and the creation of the mind and the human soul.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

But the more I /.../concerts of Mozart will not go!

I remembered that you are not so long ago wrote about Diebenkorn, V.Ch.
You listened to all five Mozart violin concertos in a row - we can say that progammu was compiled not too successful, and violin concertos - not the best in Mozart, but I love them very much - and have decided to no longer listen to Mozart concerts vyplesnuv way baby with water.

For piano concertos by Mozart, from the 9 th, it is absolutely heavenly music. A concerto for flute and harp? But a concerto for clarinet?

Do not miss the chance to get acquainted with this wonderful music. Let us act on the principle: first look, read and listen, and then tried

[sur]

Сообщение от inquisitive

arrived.
Do you (by your admission) at different wavelengths of perception appear and disappear different points of view.
Can tell, when will the wave of stability, then continue the discussion.
How do you think yourself?

 I have never claimed to have my words were the ultimate truth.
 I gave your definition of what believe this art and in principle I do not refuse him. But I'm not right in saying that its internal filter tried to pass off as a universal opredelenie.Vse other definitions I will accept or reject it is expelling them through this, his internal qualifications. It is primary for me.
 I try to share their views and if someone's system of argument will be the most complete and accurate, compared to mine, then I am always ready to accept it and change my point of view.

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Сообщение от Peter

"This Art is always an objective, but always subjective perception of it.

 I accept without comment.

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Сообщение от Artem

The real art - is of course love! But, let's say, a biblical (not my uncle, aunt). This alliance and the creation of the mind and the human soul.

  Also accept without comment.

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Сообщение от Artem

is of course love! " Only, let's say, a biblical (not my uncle, aunt).

Like this?
Love is patient, love is not jealous, love does not boast, it is not proud, not rude, not self-seeking, not easily provoked, thinketh no evil does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth, always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails, though, and prophecy will cease, and tongues, and knowledge away with.
1Kor.13 :4-8

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Like this?
Love is patient, love is not jealous, love does not boast, it is not proud, not rude, not self-seeking, not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth, always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails, though the prophecies will cease, and tongues, and knowledge of an end.
1Kor.13 :4-8

For me - just so! How to make a mantra in Tibet. Today is tomorrow copied the. This is art. Do not feel sorry, do not worry, do not show pain on the canvas. All is well. Your job as then sell expensive or cheap, a forum about this.

[sur]

Сообщение от Artem

To me - exactly! How to make a mantra in Tibet. Today is tomorrow copied the. This is art. Do not feel sorry, do not worry, do not show pain on the canvas. All is well. Your job as then sell expensive or cheap, a forum about it.

 In Koktebel periodically happens potter Vladimir Korneev, he likes to do something-do on a potter's wheel, and then hryas and the new.

 Artem, I've read about the fate of your missing pictures, then came to my mind two thoughts.
 First, that's really a lesson in humility! , Especially after your journey. What do you think an accident ?
 Second-and it could have been worse. For many artists studios were burning at the same Minas such a big part of the paintings burned. And your pictures live and please people, but you're flying with the money. What do you think you've got for this kind of compensation? If not, then you sure this is yet to be ..

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Сообщение от sur

when I read about the fate of your missing pictures, then came to my mind two thoughts.

Imagine this kid called me yesterday. I have a little tube of hand falling out. And you know why? I asked the photo of the pictures in good quality. In arrogance, wonder such people. I have not heard it for 10 years. Chuvachek 100 years live, the nerves in order.

Сообщение от sur

In Koktebel periodically happens potter Vladimir Korneev

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