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[Natalia772007]

Help decide in the evaluation of the icon . It was written in 1889 by artist Mikhail Vasilyevich Bryansk . In our family it is more than 100 years . Mikhail Vasilievich wrote it when exhibited his work in St. Petersburg . This "list " of the icon Chenstyhovskoy Mother of God , located at that time in the Kazan Cathedral of Peter . About that there is an icon the artist's signature . As you know, after the Revolution icon , presented to Alexander and located in the Cathedral , has disappeared . And until recently about her nothing had been heard . The size of the icon 43x56 cm , has reflennuyu surface and covered with gold leaf . On the reverse side has the date and signature of the artist .
Thank you in advance for your help.

[redbor]

If you really work MV Bryansk , a few thousand euros can ask for.

Сообщение от Natalia772007

This is a " list " of the icon Chenstyhovskoy Virgin on the reverse side has the date and signature of the artist .

The signatures have not found anything .
And strangely written Chenst Since Bloch . At the Kazan Cathedral ( from 1813 to 1931 ) is a list of Czestochowa icon .
Whenever and wherever they write Chenst O Bloch /Czest O chowska /and in Polish and in Russian - On .
Not to mention the error in spelling , such as " np E nadlezhit " etc.
So there is a fear may not work Bryansk M. ..

[Дед Мороз]

Doubts unfounded - the inscription old and dear.
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[Kid Loco]

And I also stand by the opinion of Father - the signature no doubts - nature is without question.
Very hard to see the icon, but probably also fits the description.


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Сообщение от Santa Claus

doubts unfounded - the inscription old and dear.
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[Игорь Гурьев]

Errors in neat ink inscription as debility , I have no words .

As if some illiterate idiot is trying to counterfeit the style of the early 20 th century - with a completely insane OMISSIONS BUKAF in the text , in which they are well, just by definition can not be .

Although the icon - for that photo , that is - no doubt like no objections.

[Kid Loco]

By definition , if you do not take into account that the artist maloros

CL

Сообщение от Guriev , Igor

Errors in neat ink inscription as debility , I have no words .

As if some illiterate idiot is trying to counterfeit the style of the early 20 th century - with a completely insane OMISSIONS BUKAF in the text , in which they are well, just by definition can not be .

Although the icon - for that photo , that is - no doubt did not seem to cause .

[Игорь Гурьев]

Kid Loco, you know, I will draw and write, and if I had to write such large letters with paint, I would be their guides on pre-pencil.

and then to reread it.

I can not imagine elementarnago crossing letters.

[Kid Loco]

I'm on the topic spelling usually do not argue and I know the Ukrainian language on a primitive level, but it seems to me that the Ukrainian hudzhniku ​​ is a normal spelling. Perhaps we should clarify the Ukrainian colleagues?

Here's an example:

scho lyagaє based іlyustratsії, chi obov'yazkovo hudzhniku ​​ vіdchuvati book?
Yakihos rules retseptіv for stvorennya іlyustratsії, navіt odnoznachnoї vіdpovіdі at peak tannya, scho TAKE іlyustratsіya not іsnuє, іnakshe vsі books bulls used similar mіzh him. Truncated deposits vіd talent and gusto, profesіynostі artist. Bagat people ljubljana holy book, Ale at tsomu roblyat zhahlivі іlyustratsії. I know nas bogato people yakі іlyustratsієyu zaymayutsya yak "lіvim" pіdrobіtkom, Ale roblyat chain genіalno.

And about karandashega - this, dear, who have both - it can be taught at the St. Petersburg Academy, and without it ... There with the king and the priest should not this have been taught

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Kid Loco, you know, I myself somewhere hudozhneg, and if I had to write such large letters with paint, I would be their guides on pre karandashegom.
and then to reread it.
I can not imagine elementarnago pass bukaf.

Posted 2 hours 9 minutes
You know I was thinking - but not too late if this artist to baptize children? In 1889, it seems like almost 60 years has been - all of course is - but still questioning

Mikhail Bryansk (8 (20) November 1830, Kiev - 1908) - Russian painter.

[redbor]

Сообщение от Santa Claus

Spelling in more than 100 years, much has changed ...

In what kind of academy graduates during
missed letters in words, writing ChenstYhovskaya? belongs?
 I have no doubt the icon and the inscription.
Icon of good-almost an exact copy of the list of Czestochowa icon,
 which was donated by M. Kutuzov in the Kazan Cathedral.
The question is not about that, and the blame. I wanted to clarify -
which, in addition to this inscription, there is evidence supporting the brush M. Bryansk?
From etgo depends, and evaluation. Repeatedly.
Just in case, let me remind - M. Bryansk author of the only lifetime portrait of St. John of Kronstadt.
 

Сообщение от Kid Loco

And I also stand by the opinion of Father - the signature is beyond doubt

That is, you do not doubt that this signature did the artist M. Bryansk?

Сообщение от Kid Loco

You know I was thinking - but not too late if this artist to baptize children?

And what have the "baptism"? Written for the blessing. "

/It is logical to assume that the very icon and an inscription written capable, but not very literacy, painters,
 and everything is in place: the icon-painter did not write it belonged to him and he blessed her his daughter .. /

[Kid Loco]

No , I have no doubt that the signature was made in the late 19 th century - is clearly not a remake . Something that made ​​M. Bryansk - this I just doubt it .

It is quite possible that the icon and the signature was made ​​to order - Bryansk was not a painter but rather a fashionable portrait painter and therefore might well have ordered an icon because it was not his profile

However this is only my guess - I'm not really familiar with the work of M. Bryansk

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Сообщение от redbor

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And I also stand by the opinion of Father - the signature no doubts
That is, you do not doubt that this signature did the artist M. Bryansk ?