Fakes ... Fakes ...

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от xopowo

How about this Burliuk?

xopowo, especially for you.
I opened one of the photos that were more clearly see the compiling.

[xopowo]

Сообщение от Konstantin; 1714193"

Have you noticed a bias here? You convincingly express their "opinion", who has an objection on the merits - are welcome.

Bias is not observed, and therefore continue to rely on her absence.
The difference between "opinion" from "nepodlezhashego appeal the decision three" I assume also known.

Just want to clarify that the owner of the unsold "Nature morte métaphysique" kak Burliuk and sold for $ 4.750 I am not,
but being classified as "Beginner" would like to ask:

1. Re-reading and re-vniknuv probably the 15th time in the responses
Arguments and the local administrator of Constantine "Alec Thunder" to me (as a novice end) do not appear to fully rastumanivayuschimi spuriousness:
a) For example, compared with the second miniaturoy from "OlegTsi" (#953) I do not see how in my miniature "proportion of the shelf" is written much more "fake". But even before "Stydoba away!" (#956) degrees.
b) compared to the eighth miniaturoy from the same (#953) in more than my thumbnail, "unstable"?

2.

Сообщение от Konstantin; 1714193"

The picture is in our database and it is assigned a "yellow light of the investment risk".

a) How to watch "our base?" Is there a link to it?
b) yellow links as far as I can guess (but searched and found where -#961) (and just like that, purely on an intuitive analogy with traffic lights) does not say clearly "fake"? However, "Alec Thunder" convinced (#956) - "and as clear conclusion - falshaka"!

3. What is "Hardboard"? Do not conclusively Kras-counterfeit work for "Hardboard"?

4. By Burliuk -
a) Why there is a perception that all young peasant woman with miniature rocker (#963) - dried fake?
b) Why can not (in non-Hovichka naturally) be a suspicion that David Davidovich summer evenings sitting on Long Island is not nostalgia for a frosty village visions of the former homeland? And then ... dried work is transformed from a "suspect" quality "of supporting."

Lord (Guru da Sr. da s-thousandths with reputations >)
I would have said something to the new thumbnails, but as it is now ashamed >. Not worth it?

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Сообщение от OlegTsi

xopowo, especially for you. I opened one of the photos that were more clearly see the compiling .

Dear OlegTsi,

I absolutely agree that one of these two works were created by man familiar with the "other" job. But why do you believe that this man was not himself Burliuk period of Long Island?

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от xopowo; 1714081"

How about this Burliuk?

Dear xopowo. After all, this question you asked me to learn the opinion of this picture, is not it? If you are sure of its authenticity 100%, then why ask?

If you think that she's all smoothly, you missed your chance to have it for almost free.

In the U.S., several groups are working-poddelschikov who have themselves come up with plots under Burliuk, will improve the technique kopiirovaniya, the strokes, the strokes, cows, etc. marusechek And closer to your goal so closely that distinguish a fake from the original can not even you. It's not a computer-assigning "titles" or guru of old. About practice and experience on the forum who know a lot of guys.
You asked for my opinion, I voiced it. Why so and what the nuances of these fakes - I will not share, because it vospolzuyutsya poddelschiki. But the thing that David Burliuk so did not write in Long Island or in New Mexico or Italy.
If you have an opinion, please keep. It is for those who think that these works are authentic and is targeted this "scam".

Сообщение от xopowo

I absolutely agree that one of these two works were created by man familiar with the "other" job.

And on the other, and the third, and four, and the fifth. The list goes on. This topic is a lot of these images.

Good luck in the search for the truth!

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от xopowo; 1713971"

Gentlemen,
It is interesting that you and about this Krasnopevtseva opinions hodiatsya distribution .

This work is not among the paintings in 1980 , published in a collection of Kras . The composition feels sorting objects and , more importantly, lack of harmony inherent K. stump shelves especially embarrassing.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Vladimir

stump shelves especially embarrassing.

And I was - the fish.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1715943"

And I was - the fish .

weird written out fish from a different era , suspicious palette , asymmetry , there are a lot of compilation -like . Coming soon to know exactly . But in any case , you see, not some blatant zalipuha . Rather, the class will be held on superpoddelok >

[xopowo]

Сообщение от Vladimir; 1716043"

Soon exactly know. But in any case , you see, not some blatant zalipuha .

but as we know it ?

The picture is in our database and it is assigned a "yellow light of the investment risk" ( see for yourself what it means) .

Vladimir, could you also answer how we can look at " our base " (#961) ?


thanks

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от xopowo

how can we look at "our base" (#961)?

The base fee.

See here.

[OlegTsi]

Several new fakes with Ibeya and one from last year.

Compare the first two fakes, specifically imitate art Burliuk. This difference in technique, smears and similarity, because it creates different poddelschikami . The first - working on technique smear pastosity , those characters. Second - and more primitive deschevaya .

Of course , not knowing enough creativity Burliuk , we can easily say that if the first original , the second fake.
All the pictures of the merchants from the famous fakes in the U.S. ( Florida , New York, Pennsylvania) , and Bulgaria.

Soon, some of them will pop up to third- auctions. The prices and amounts will not stop .

[Алек Сандер]

Сообщение от xopowo

a) For example, compared with the second miniaturoy from "OlegTsi" (#953) I do not see how in my miniature "proportion of the shelf" is written much more "fake". But even before "Stydoba away!" (#956) degrees.

It is up to the degree of "stydoba." The miniature 2, to which you refer to the proportions of all is in order. On your own shelf upper surface is written terribly awry, in violation of all proportions.

Сообщение от xopowo

b) compared to the eighth miniaturoy from the same (#953) in more than my thumbnail, "unstable"?

Everything. Enumeration of objects, unjustified to place them in the spirit of "I want to." Krasnopevtsev painted still life, that is, from nature. Of bottles in my life do not happen. The fish hangs in the air (or it is stuck? Which is also nonsense!). In addition, all the still lifes of Kras, and especially of the period, were placed in the space of the picture. Here, the lower bowl broken. And where it is pen - in a hole? Krasnopevtsev never did such nonsense. He is doing in the field and all justified. He is very "mathematical" artist.

Сообщение от xopowo

b) yellow links as far as I can guess (but searched and found where -#961) (and just like that, purely on an intuitive analogy with traffic lights) does not say clearly "fake"? However, "Alec Thunder" convinced (#956) - "and as clear conclusion - falshaka"!

Yes, I am absolutely convinced of this. Even venture to contradict Vladimir, falshaka very ticky-tacky, as well draw here is very bad and people did not care to study normal manner Kras.

More good reasons I can not give, and these arguments, it seems, you do not convince. Well, then I recommend to turn to Alexander Ushakov, who is an expert on Krasnopevtsev. He works in the gallery "Romanov". Seek and ye shall find. But in order not to interrupt people for nothing, I recommend to spend on albums Krasnopevtsev carefully examine their own and come to conclusions that are presented to you here.