How to unleash the artist

[Илья Максимов]

Neither ever did not sell more cheaply than in the gallery, well, if only hunger was falling down.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Pavel

Here you are wrong. When the artist sold at auction, then only specify the price at this particular moment. The artist, if he is not bound by the treaty, which rarely happens, just more expensive and starts to sell their belongings at the new price and all.
When the records of Vollare said that the director or client gave Vlaminck paintings, it seems that they have risen in price just because at Drouot increased demand for Vlaminck, and it rose. The artist becomes more expensive, richer owners and traders. Impressionists risen at Drouot, etc. Read the monograph on Utrillo, the same thing.
Artists still becoming more expensive and took seats at the price, only at auction quickly and naturally, and without a long and unnatural.
Unnatural I call when the seller sets the price.

Paul, I have a question, if you all know so well (all mechanisms), then why are not sold at Drouot?

[iside]

Сообщение от Berth

But how this option is not honest?

wharf, I was not talking about the gallery owners (sorry, I do not know how the correct gallerist, gallery owners), but about the buyers that among buyers is found.
Why is dishonest, because in the gallery of the artist comes to you and you tell him about your conditions. And if you went to the studio to the artist every day and tried to persuade to sell three times cheaper.
I remembered we had such a case, a man came to talk about the film, which was already an agreement with another buyer, but was not taken the pledge, so we say to him, the picture is, in principle, be sold for that amount, but there is no collateral, if you want pay more to buy immediately, but he would like 2 times cheaper, which is not only about inventing and relatives in the hospital and besonnye nights, etc. "But this is especially negotiations with the Eastern people.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Veronic

However, such contracts rarely offer gallery owners, and artists from time to time it seems that the workshop can earn more than the shares with the gallery owners.

In order to, as you noticed, "a contract", it is necessary that the artist in these respects was a partner, not a dreamer, wishing to have everything and no one to share ... All work must have an equivalent reward. If an artist wants to combine in himself all the functions - he has every right to it. But what if the market penyat7

Сообщение от Veronic

Then Paul asked a specific question, "And who asked to sell a previously purchased the picture, not exchange, namely to sell?" What do you say?

It seemed to me that Paul asked the question to someone specific. If we talk about my experience, that such options were plentiful. True, some artists, when they want to buy something back, remember that price should not be a market. They want to one that was a couple of years ago, when he sold ...

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Veronic

Paul, I have a question, if you all know so well (all mechanisms), then why are not sold at the Drouot?

Drouot auction French. They sell their expensive French artists, and others are blind. They tell us their poor artists complete and faster than buy their best of others. All the best normal mean expensive. I have a lot of paintings bought in France so that mmozhet and sold I do not know.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

I call unnatural when the seller sets the price.

When prices are fixed by the seller - this is just the most natural way of pricing. After all, only the seller knows all the nuances of the market, considering its own interest.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

At the auction the picture should not fall on the basis of survival (excuse) of the artist, but for its artistic value ... And the studio is not always cheaper to obtain. In self-respecting artists working with reputable galleries, just the opposite. The artist allowed to come to the wrong person in the holy of holies, spent a lot of time and nerves to communicate, to pay 10 percent of the gallery (from the transaction amount). A buyer was able to select and interact with the maestro ... So pay more than the gallery, not less. That is my understanding that cooperation. Then we can say that the market is civilized, the formation of ..., where each has its place.

If the gallery buys more expensive than selling the question-what earns gallery? I have great respect Odessa, but think the same need.

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

When the seller sets the price - this is just the most natural way of pricing. After all, only the seller knows all the nuances of the market, considering its own interest.

In the catalog Akun says that in the galleries, prices can be higher than in the catalog and everything is clear, buying things at auction dealer has made easy to find, evaluate this thing and selling it he gets more money. Compare your prices and they and you will understand the meaning of the auction.
You do not have on their salaries. Buy from beginners and more money is not necessary.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

If the gallery buys more expensive than selling the question-what earns gallery? I have great respect Odessa, but think the same need.

You open my eyes to the gallery business. First, the gallery buys only in extreme cases, when the price of necessary goods is low. The usual rule - commission torglvlya. Secondly, the task of galleries - sell, not buy. And thirdly, I also have great respect for Odessa (even love), but I am in Kiev. I think at the same time always try ...

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

The usual rule - commission torglvlya ...

We have already discussed it. Again, a rhetorical question, why the artist an exclusive contract, if the trade commission and there is no guarantee that the gallery owner to sell the painting. Exclusive contract - it's always money in advance, and then do whatever you want.

[Валерий Рыбаков]

Сообщение от Pavel

Buy from beginners and big money do not.

Yes, that's my example