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Старый 07.10.2010, 01:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #81
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a very competent and diplomatic evasion ... but simply demagogues.
I would be easier, why realists are selling well, and not realistic, struggle to survive, belong to one category? Just because ZAGRAEVSKY third letter not dreamed of?
I support this issue. As a result of this division, an understanding of creativity is imposed so that now the age-old genre is not considered "modern art" and are replaced with the exhibitions. I witnessed the failure to a very good artist to participate in the exhibition .. He was not taken only because of his still-life differed sharply on the manner of performance, careful, beautiful and professional (for an exhibition at the Manege "All Petersburg"), it somehow felt, apparently, a "commercial" ... ie in their understanding of opportunistic ... But the organizers of this exhibition, declare that it represented "all the art of St. Petersburg" and is a good idea. But then we have to show all the genres, so you can see the actual processes in the arts, not only wanted the curators, their preferences might be biased ... If the situation changes so that artists once again turn to the genre and the audience again began buying pictures, why not consider? Why this is given a negative connotation (as it is attached to this division)?
All the masterpieces now held in museums, have been made to sell.
With regard to "sales on the street," it is the case of artists. Work below a certain level generally can not be obsuzhdaemy ... or notag ...
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Старый 07.10.2010, 02:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #82
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I support this issue. As a result of this division, an understanding of creativity is imposed so that now the age-old genre is not considered "modern art" and are replaced with the exhibitions. I witnessed the failure to a very good artist to participate in the exhibition .. He was not taken only because of his still-life differed sharply on the manner of performance, careful, beautiful and professional (for an exhibition at the Manege "All Petersburg"), it somehow felt, apparently, a "commercial" ... ie in their understanding of opportunistic ... But the organizers of this exhibition, declare that it represented "all the art of St. Petersburg" and is a good idea. But then we have to show all the genres, so you can see the actual processes in the arts, not only wanted the curators, their preferences might be biased ... If the situation changes so that artists once again turn to the genre and the audience again began buying pictures, why not consider? Why this is given a negative connotation (as it is attached to this division)?
All the masterpieces now held in museums, have been made to sell.
With regard to "sales on the street," it is the case of artists. Work below a certain level generally can not be obsuzhdaemy ... or notag ...
We have no time and within the RC voices that would be nice to still enter the category of "AB". But in the end then it turns out that this category will get a maximum of a few percent udozhnikov, and because of her confusing user is not worth it.

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Artists, classified in categories "A" and "B" at the appropriate levels have an equal rating.
And those who believe that the A above B, I say: very, very many people think the opposite. It already depends on the taste. And very often you can hear the proud declaration of artists: "Yes, I'm a market artist!". There are many, and is becoming more and more. Suggests this is true, the sad thoughts about the global trends of the Russian art market ...




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Старый 07.10.2010, 09:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #83
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We have no time and within the RC voices that would be nice to still enter the category of "AB". But in the end then it turns out that this category will get a maximum of a few percent udozhnikov, and because of her confusing user is not worth it.

No need to belittle the intelligence of users, much like some insight.





"And those who believe that a higher than in, say :"(
... Actually I'm here about the numbers, not about the letters asking for clearer ... Again, why Shemyakin," 3 "and Zagraevsky" 3 "? Why Burchard" 4 ", Radimov" 2 "?
And such zalepuh in the rating "a dime a dozen"



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Старый 07.10.2010, 09:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #84
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I support this issue. As a result of this division, an understanding of creativity is imposed so that now the age-old genre is not considered "modern art" and are replaced with the exhibitions. I witnessed the failure to a very good artist to participate in the exhibition .. He was not taken only because of his still-life differed sharply on the manner of performance, careful, beautiful and professional (for an exhibition at the Manege "All Petersburg"), it somehow felt, apparently, a "commercial" ... ie in their understanding of opportunistic ... But the organizers of this exhibition, declare that it represented "all the art of St. Petersburg" and is a good idea. But then we have to show all the genres, so you can see the actual processes in the arts, not only wanted the curators, their preferences might be biased ... If the situation changes so that artists once again turn to the genre and the audience again began buying pictures, why not consider? Why this is given a negative connotation (as it is attached to this division)?
All the masterpieces now held in museums, have been made to sell.
With regard to "sales on the street," it is the case of artists. Work below a certain level generally can not be obsuzhdaemy ... or notag ...
Obsuzhdaemy can and should all be the work of all authors, and another thing is a rating of the word. For the rating to a clear and precise justification. Part of it may be the price, so what happens. Changing the price, my rating, but in time. Any thing worth the money and its price depends on the value of things that may not open immediately, but over time. Works by Cezanne, or ... a lot of examples. But to put the work of artists above or below can not. Especially living artists. It turns out that the artist's name is used for commercial purposes without his consent. Here is fraught with financial compensation for moral damage. When used in trade directories, there appears a thing sold by a particular author and copyright are not affected, and are in clear violation of copyright to the moral damages for commercial purposes.
And dreams of some Mendeleev dreaming, but that's just corny. ChTd
The conclusion is the commercial-ratings improve the entrepreneurship in not having to art in any way. In fact, quite brazen.
You can make another rating or two, the second-ranking critics.



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Старый 07.10.2010, 10:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #85
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Art Orth and Paul, all the questions I have answered above, please read carefully.
If you are 10 times repeat the same one, it would not be convincing.

Or do you "Notes on the female logic" guided?
http://www.erlib.com/Дмитрий_Беклеми...»огике/1/

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The repetition of the argument

In the men's logic, we are accustomed to the fact that the probative force of any argument does not change when it is repeated. If the theorem is proved, then no matter how many times no doubt, repetition of the proof of their addresses.

In the women's logic probative force of the argument by repeating it varies quite a complicated law. Most often it is growing, but sometimes catastrophic falls.

Repeating the argument, it should be every time to give him a new verbal expression. It is particularly important to insults and swearing, without which, as you know, logical reasoning would be like without the sour cream dumplings were fresh every time. If you fail to comply with this rule, be sure that after the second or third repetition of your argument will be rejected: "Well, harp on the same string the same thing!". However to make this mistake can only be green newcomers.

We illustrate this scene, performed (on the model of the tragedies of Aeschylus), the two soloists and chorus.

Citizen: Points! Points! Stolen! That attack!

Chorus of Passengers: Search for itself, to whom they need to steal!

Citizen: Stole this one! Take a look, that for a view! Give me my glasses! And shod!

Guy: Yes, here I am standing there and not here.

Citizen: Of course, he stole! See how the looks!

Chorus: No, he was just there he stood!

Citizen: And blushed. Jail them all a little!

Chorus: And lo! Easy! Maybe he took?

Guy: I was standing there and not here at all!

Citizen: Who else would steal? Of course, the thief!

Chorus: Give me the glasses, and ended the conversation!

Guy: I was not here, I'm all that's standing there ...

Citizen: Here's a thief, a pickpocket! Clearly, he has stolen!

Chorus: What to say! Repeats its like ass!

Citizen of: The police! Why stand timidly?!

Choir: The police! And we confirm

That he stole Grazhdankin points!

Disputes in which each party reiterates its arguments are called cyclic. Over time, the dynamic theory of cyclic disputes turn into a fascinating chapter of female logic, rich ergodic theorem and asymptotic estimates.



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Старый 07.10.2010, 10:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #86
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It turns out that the artist's name is used for commercial purposes without his consent. Here is fraught with financial compensation for moral damage. When used in trade directories, there appears a thing sold by a particular author and copyright are not affected, and are in clear violation of copyright to the moral damages for commercial purposes.
Paul, in general, understanding, and sometimes even sharing your enthusiasm, yet can not help but notice that your zoom is rather the moral ethical background rather than legal. That there is copyright infringement, I somehow do not see. What exactly is the situation of the Copyright Act is violated? Can not you make a post in the internet and its ranking of artists based on your personal opinion? And whose rights are violated?
Another thing is that when a rating of one (and actually another ranking of the volume of Russian artists, I do not know), it is suggestive ...
And the fact that this rating - business - so it's obvious (otherwise, why all these measures to prevent its occurrence in the internet). I do not think it's something changes. If he is self-sustaining, so honor and praise to the organizers. Can be based on the enthusiasm once stiffen, and do something, but do it regularly, and even with a team - already know this ...

And by the way, do not tell whether our dear companion, were there many lawsuits to EXP (including over copyright infringement) if it is certainly not a secret infa?

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... Actually I'm here about the numbers, not about the letters asking for clearer ... Again, why Shemyakin, "3" and Zagraevsky "3"? Why Burchard "4" Radimov and "2"?
And such zalepuh in the rating "a dime a dozen"
Art-ort, on the linear approach, which is taken in the EXP, there is no doubt that such "zalepuh" exp "dime a dozen." Moreover in such a quantity of material and with such vague criteria is has always been and will be a generic patch of this enterprise. I think, because, apparently, people are not stupid, they themselves are well aware. And no other criteria other than vague they do not have and never will again because of the nature of the subject matter. And by and large, this tool can be really useful only to the neophyte to distinguish from Rembrandt Titkina without studying fine art works, that is, it can be used only for rough estimates, in which the difference between 4 and 6 of the first category is insignificant. Which, incidentally, is not so bad.
As for the rating of Mr. ZAGRAEVSKY, then without loss of its merits, just look at his picture, to understand at least a rough approximation of his stance. And there's nothing wrong with that. All people are different. One will always underestimate ourselves, not to lose respect for, and the other (for the same reasons), on the contrary - overrated. Ce la vie ...




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Старый 07.10.2010, 11:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #87
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Art Orth and Paul, all the questions I have answered above, please read carefully.
If you are 10 times repeat the same one, it would not be convincing.

Or do you "Notes on the female logic" guided?
http://www.erlib.com/Дмитрий_Беклеми...»огике/1/
You did not answer the question: who gave you the right to use the names of artists for profit without permission.



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Старый 07.10.2010, 11:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #88
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[QUOTE="Pavel; 1312411]Here is fraught with financial compensation for moral damage.[/QUOTE]

Did you file a lawsuit.


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If he is self-sustaining, so honor and praise to the organizers.
He brings a profit, I'm sure.
But each new dopechatanny circulation is not just a copy of the previous one, and "additions and corrections", which for a pull some more number of buyers who have already some previous № №.




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Here is Mikhail Shemyakin you Zagraevsky 3B and 3A
Have fun.

You're right, Olga, - "And so it creates havoc on the art market."
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And by the way, ask this question, in particular, Shemyakin. I've never been a fan of his, but had always recognized his talent. When visited on the "Nutcracker" and "The Magic Nut", I have simply "slipped roof - this is such a brilliant job. Ballet there, of course, no no (especially nuts), but it's just a magical sight, it would recommend a Sun. As they say, this is one of those things you need to see before you die. During one such product (as a matter of fact, this is not one and probably many hundreds of works), I would have picked it up for 1-2 levels.
That is, that's theatrical-decorative art to you is - to three-dimensional works?



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