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Here Eugene noted that some expert advice should, in cooperation with the heirs, to judge the authenticity of paintings. I must, of course, it is a pity, to live in a time of great ...
Because many of our distinguished experts (we will not, of course, name names), in a situation where they were brought to study the work of a famous Soviet artist freshly bought from his heirs - not because he had doubts about the authenticity, but only for the presence of a "priceless piece of paper" , topped with a seal of solid institutions, onaya ekspertsha his "research" svle to that rang heirs and clarify whether the work was bought from them. After that, and was given a magic bumazhentsiya, paid properly.
Everyone is happy: the dealer who has a picture not only with the provenance, but also with the conclusion of an art, an heir who has made a nice deal, and the expert who has received big bucks at a time without the intellectual costs.
However, this situation is good only if the heir is honest with others. That's how I know, no one art dealer or collector could accuse Alexander of uncleanliness.
Avoid the issues - I am not a PR agent Alexander and, frankly, not a special admirer of his father, just a good example.
A question of decency heirs, but must admit, and the artists themselves - is, I believe, a topic for separate discussion. A striking example - the work of a Moscow artist, exhibited at the Saturday auction Art-Union. It will be interesting, let's discuss it.

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Because many of our distinguished experts (we will not, of course, name names), in a situation where they were brought to study the work of a famous Soviet artist freshly bought from his heirs and successors ....... telephoned to clarify whether the work was acquired from the them. After that, and was given a magic bumazhentsiya, paid properly.

I'm a little know how and what applies to the issuance of opinions on the works and I doubt that this is the case as you described. Is that what a secondary, third-rate institution ...

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only conducting technical and technological, art history research specialists, who then put their signatures on the certificate of quality of this picture and will be legally and financially liable for their words.

uh ... and you can sample at least one fund, which has a material or legal liability? only about the art-consulting is not necessary. prove that they made the wrong decision almost impossible.

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A question of decency heirs, but must admit, and the artists themselves - is, I believe, a topic for separate discussion. A striking example - the work of a Moscow artist, exhibited at the Saturday auction Art-Union. It will be interesting, let's discuss it.

Let's create a post on this topic.

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We all live in a wonderful country in which there is a lot of strange things. If my observation is you have a doubt (even though the story is absolutely true, it happened 2 years ago and the organization the most, that neither is on a major) - Treat him like a bike, where a large number

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We all live in a wonderful country in which there is a lot of strange things. If my observation is you have a doubt (even though the story is absolutely true, it happened 2 years ago and the organization the most, that neither is on a major) - Treat him like a bike, where a large number

emmm ... but perhaps in my words was irony or doubt? Let us, however, it will discuss. I just do not know what it is.

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Meister is absolutely right about such things we should talk, talk. In this area need to restore order, as in all other areas of Russia's life. Who if not we? I think that if unscrupulous employees, art critic, traffic cops, officials, etc. will feel in control, violations and injustice will be at least a little - a little less.

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I'm a little know how and what applies to the issuance of opinions on the works and I doubt that this is the case as you described. Is that what a secondary, third-rate institution ...

I also have some information about what happened in the issuance of opinions on the works, and I'm sure that the story passer equal validity.
About a year ago, a dealer brought a picture, allegedly written by Roginskii (it was not even a forgery, but simply the product of an unknown artist to me, stylistically absolutely nothing to do with not having Roginskii) at most that of a primary agency, and quite vysokostavlenny employee /ca this agencies immediately put kindly /and his signature to such attribution. In contrast to the stories told by passers-by, this /j Officer /Qi no doubt, which would prompt him /her to turn to the successor, that is, to me - it is possible that s /he decided to /and that the phone call on France will be too nakladen for an institution which s /he represents, or did not know /but you call in Paris, or he /she were there any considerations - this aspect of history unknown to me.

Fortunately, our dealer holds more than questionable Roginsky, apparently driven by the principle of "oatmeal butter will not spoil", he turned to another /nd Officer /tse of the same primary institution who /nd refused /Eh attributed to this work and asked Roginsky /Eh to me.

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That's Eugene noted that some expert advice should, in cooperation with the heirs, to judge the authenticity of the paintings.

I specifically cited the example of
"The fund preservation of cultural heritage of the artist Pyotr Konchalovsky" http://www.pkonchalovsky.ru as one of the options.
Konchalovsky's heirs if they sell paintings from his collection, there are also certificates for this picture (and now pose a special tag, excluding the possibility of selling bullshit to a certificate, etc.), and this is right, and after 5 and 50 years of problems with This picture will not .. carefully read what is written on the site .. very interesting.

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(and many thanks to Alexander Stozharov for it), but the attribution of the paintings he alone holds MUST NOT (to avoid errors), only the advisory council (which may use the material for the paintings, which gained A. Stozharau) only conducting technical and technological, art history research specialists, who then put their signatures on the certificate of quality of this picture and will be legally and financially liable for their words.
Including the signature on the certificate and put nasledniki.I then issues practically there will be no attribution. (Especially Alexander lives in Moscow).
PSOdin times we have already discussed. "Art Consulting" who did not like, you can connect the museum lab .. it is not problema.No principle should be left alone, professionalism, and not diletansky (often just emotional) approach to this problem.

Absolutely do not agree with this statement. There may even hypothetically imagine the creation of the expert council on Stozharov (as any other artist) - this is where the same may take a few specialists, well versed in the art Stozharov? The whole world practice shows that there is any significant artist one is a recognized expert, for example, Mr. Descharnes for Daly, Mr. Tahman of Soutine or Wanda de Guebriant by Matisse. This is understandable, a specialist his entire life studying the works of this artist and other art historians simply no reason to go into someone else's garden. And in the case of Stozharov quite clear that no one better than his son does not understand his work, and require some other mythical conclusion of the expert council is simply ridiculous.
Next: What is the museum laboratory you call to connect to the issue of Stozharov? Hermitage? Pushkin Museum? Museum of Modern Art. Tsereteli? They do not do, and never in my life will not do. Also at the forum was considered in some detail the question of confidence in the technological expertise, ie of its complete absence. Artkonsalting appeared something precisely in order to fill the empty place and do you get this money, and not to seek the truth. It's not that he likes someone or not, just today there is no technological methods credible.
Of course, there are heirs, absolutely no expertise in the work of their relatives, but in this case we are talking about other, true connoisseurs. I understand that you, as artdileru easier to sell with examinations or tretyakovok artkonsaltingov, but that's another story ...

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qwerty, A. Stozharau person concerned, in this issue, his subjective opinion, but we went to the second round ..
....." Passer-granddaughter of Pimenov's not like, I A. Stozharau like to be? Show you another party meeting will gather?
The path along which the Fund Konchalovsky most reasonable.