Investments - Analysis - meaning

[Peter]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Vy pravy v otsenke rynochnyh dvizenii.
Rynkom dvizut zadnost 'i strah.

Poetomu chasten'ko vyigryvaiut te, kto mozet obuzdat 'svoi chuvstva i rabotat' protiv dvizenii rynka.

Absolutely agree: cheaper, - buy, more expensive, "sell.

[Marta]

Tell me, please, a link where you can read about the features of national art market?

[iside]

Сообщение от Marta

Tell me, please, a link where you can read about the features of national art market?

Marta, read the topic, which opened the LCR (in her profile you can see), it produces a remarkable articles on the art market.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от spigo

All verno.Esche possess, enjoy, assert, etc.

Pozvoliu sebe perefrazirovat ': assert posredstvom vladeniia .

[Pavel]

And where is the analysis?

[Meister]

AlexanderG, you know, you now write that they say is interesting, look like investments in art, is there a profit from them, etc. But you do not take any arguments, all have understood that you think they are pointless, may not be worth talking about in every topic? OK, you think real estate and the market p /b the only reliable investment. argued that it is not, you do not perceive. Maybe it is not necessary in each topic to say that investment in art inappropriate. or let adequately perceive the counter-parties, or let the matter does not arise.

[sergejnowo]

Meister, support your point of view.
Discussing /call to a particular type of investment money, not taking a while for their words /advice /recommendations of any responsibility, it is not wise. The last couple of years, many of those who invested in property, shares, securities or art progareli to the nines. Something about this and that very few people wrote. Investments often turn malopredskazuemuyu apiece. What is already forgotten as money in bank accounts frozen, and then how to received 5000 rubles (Zhiguli price at the time) with sorrow bought a Snickers? Yes these ambushes darkness. Nobody knows how and what will be the day after.
By Suteev its range of one divorce and the exact time when another burst bubble, they know only Initiation.
Two examples based on the "most reliable" investment.
 - Government bonds. For example in Germany, for a period of 5 years, under 4%. Where is the guarantee that in a crisis, the state will give you your blood + 4%? The second chip crisis erupts, set up the tax on these 4%(which you do not have). And tax on profits will not be "flows like" for 5 years, lots have to pay. A Toli still be in a year - the other?
- Real estate. The fact that the price tags have fallen in the past two years in a couple of times, it's not a secret. What will happen next nobody knows. But there is, theoretically, the likelihood that you knock on the door and you will hear how in 1917 - Major Schmidt, Guten tag name of the revolution there will be the headquarters of our division ...
Funny perhaps, but we are in 2007 about the crisis, even in the nightmares did not anticipate.

I have a friend in years, is 500,000 euros per year "extra money", well, the type of investment.
He puts them in a bank box in Switzerland, in large denominations. I'm over it five years, laughed.
So, he did not suffer from the crisis ..... paradox. Now do not laugh.

[SAH]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

He puts them in a bank box in Switzerland, in large denominations. I'm over it five years, laughed.
So, he did not suffer from the crisis ..... paradox. Now do not laugh.

A good example to-date, but from investment in art as such complaints are not observed, literate about embedding say. Plus unlimited pleasure. "And yet, it is your friend, these 500 a year is not the same receives from the sky.

[Tana]

better yet put in a cell Swiss banking house of Romanov jewels :
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=50741
Here is an investment!
(I'm afraid that even in large bills, money for such a period of time (age 90) worthless

[AlexanderG]

To Meister

Sudia po vashim postam, vy zanimaetes 'investitsiiami v art i dolzny derzat' pozitsiiu, chto art iavliaetsia nadioznoi, vygodnoi investitsiei.

Ia ze imeiu vozmoznost 'vystupat' v roli "devil's advocate" i predstavliat 'drugoe mnenie.

Proshu zametit ', ia nikogda ne utverzdal, chro nel'zia sdelat' den'gi pokupaia i pereprodavaia art. Naoborot, daze ia poluchaiu dohod s etogo. No ia i drugie uchastniki foruma iavliaiutsia professionalami, imeiut dostatochno znanii, opyta i ponimaniia dvizenii na art rynke.

Сообщение от Meister

AlexanderG, you know, you now write that they say is interesting, look like investments in art, is there a profit from them, etc. But you do not take any arguments, all have understood that you think they are pointless, may not be worth talking about in every topic?

Govorit 'ob etom ne prosto stoit, a neobhodimo. Eto iavliaetsia disclaimer i osvobozdaet ot iuridicheskoi otvetstvennosti v sluchae neudach.

OK, you think real estate and the market p /b the only reliable investment. argued that it is not, you do not perceive. Maybe it is not necessary in each topic to say that investment in art inappropriate. or let adequately perceive the counter-parties, or let the matter does not raise.

Daze na rynke tsennyh bumag i nedvizimosti, daleko ne vse uchastniki poluchaiut pribyl '.

Vashi klienty i nachinaiuschie investory dolzny znat 'vo chto oni vstupaiut.

bez sootvetstvuiuschih znanii i ponimaniia uslovii raboty rynka ochen 'mnogie obozgutsia na etom.

Poetomu, kak vam neobhodimo raskruchivat 'ideiu investitsii v art, tak mne neobhodimo prosveschat' menee opytnuiu chast 'uchastnikov ob opastnostiah etih investitsii.

V mire suschestvuet neskol'ko soten imion hudoznikov, ch'i kartiny iavliaiutsia udachnymi investitsiiami (kstati, vsegda neobhodimo ponimat 'pochemu), milliony ze drugih imion zabyty navsegda (mozet byt' edinitsy pozze popadut v raskrutku) i ih art nikogda ne verniot daze tseny zatrachennyh materialov.

Horoshii primer sovremennogo rynka staryh masterov - posmotrite biografiiu Duveen, i vy uvidite, ka eto sluchilos'. Kak starye kartiny, prevratilis' v raboty staryh masterov. Kstati do sih por eti raboty mogut byt 'obnaruzeny na cherdake, v podvale, sarae.

Sovremennyi Rossiiskii rynok, iskusstva v tom chisle, eschio slishkom molod, dlia podobnyh utverzdenii.

Posemu, vy, pozaluista, vedite svoiu liniiu, a ia budu prodolzat 'vyskazyvat' svoio mnenie.