Criminal activity Gelman?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от SAH; 2109531 '

What do you mean actually believing it. They are responsible for the actions of their brothers and sisters in faith and all those who call themselves such ?

Yes, are responsible.

Сообщение от SAH; 2109531"

What indignation ?

Is not perturbed. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Сообщение от SAH; 2109531"

need to sit at home if something goes wrong .

So let this raging "Orthodox" obscurantist and sit at home and it is better - in spetslechebnitsah with high fences, barred windows and sturdy orderlies .
Normal people will live in peace.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2109551"

So let this raging "Orthodox" obscurantist and sit at home and it is better - in spetslechebnitsah with high fences, barred windows and sturdy orderlies .
Normal people will live in peace.

Do not see the connection between the Orthodox and raging . Wishing well clear . The text of the eloquent . Return to the spetslechebnitsy you are going to define the orthodox believers of other religions do not ? Muslims, Jews , Hare Krishnas ? Only selectively Orthodox ?

[Maskit]

Many understand religion as primetivno - level seen characters , such as devils with horns and pans and a god on a cloud with a gray beard that discuss with them its true purpose has no meaning , well, not given people the feeling is their misfortune and handicap . He pleasant to really realize that they have come from blue- green algae rather than from something sacred. Do not try to understand and accept the unknown , they bring down your ignorance on the priests , who are not sinless , but at least try to preserve and learn what distinguishes us from animals. Forgive them their vegetable or animal origin , let them live without faith , but faith will live without them.

[zarajara]

Сообщение от Maskit

Do not try to understand and embrace the unknown, they bring down your ignorance on the priests, who are not sinless, but at least try to preserve and learn what distinguishes us from animals. Forgive them their vegetable or animal origin, let them live without faith, but faith will live without them.

SW. Maskit, with faith or no faith - a personal matter, perhaps even intimate. But why an idea of ​​the inviolability of shrines to extend to the clergy, who for all ceremonies, special clothes, rhetoric, preaching morality, etc. - people are no different from the others by the same people infected with terrible pride (I, of course, mean not only the Orthodox, we no better).

For example, you agree to when you called his flock and himself - as pastors? It disgusts me, just to disgust.
 And I would not like, when the servant, whose cheeks are visible from the back, says the lean and hungry old woman about the dangers and sin of gluttony, and she also takes a penny (she had seen many times). And I would not like so widespread among the servants of the church in recent years show menstvo.
 
Why should I turn a blind eye to all this, despite the fact that I would do it troubled everyone else. Why does a man in a cassock should allow yourself what others can not? And where you will immediately see an act of faith?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от zarajara; 2109721"

And I would not like, when the servant, whose cheeks are visible from the back, says the lean and hungry old woman about the dangers and sin of gluttony, and she also takes a penny (she had seen many times).

And I remember recounted Alexander Nevzorov:

Читать дальше... 

At the time, I'm pretty rigidly separated from the church. But do not think that I have seen accidentally blow at the altar so strongly affected me. It was here in St. Petersburg. Being a chorister in the choir, I was running in a fume cupboard at the altar of smoke from time to time. He was a drawn curtain. Once the smoke, I heard a strange sound, looked out and saw this scene. I can not say that it struck me, I was even ready for it. Even then I knew that the most important miracle, I never see: I'll never see a qualitative change in man as a man was not close to these shrines, it remains the same lustful, violent, depraved animals, that is the miracle of man is no change . I had to stand in the closet until it's over. Those who did ipodyakon blowjob, he held a high enough position in the church, saying something, I could have a career in his church put a cross. I have not seen all the details, because I was afraid to look back, and contrary to, among other things. Fag, I do not like. I just saw this fat freckled hands on the head of this poor ipodyakona and as a hand moving rhythmically ... Then there were already stories when I was just offered to change the orientation. That is, either I go or I move to a "normal" friends. Since patsanenkom I was quite cute, I know what these proposals were heard. But what has always been in me - I could change the views of political beliefs, friends - I never changed, it's sexual orientation. I was unable to change the love for women .

I wonder what a "flock" so kiss this "fat freckled hands?" <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
 
And yet aka:

Читать дальше... 

And, of course, absolutely not satisfied that they climb to their faith in our lives. Because even this most Orthodox - in brackets, it is good or bad, I do not appreciate the myths - but it can not be a national idea. Because anyone who brings it? Atheists to believers? There is, however, is a very violent conflict, while only ideological, and then it is likely others, too. Orthodoxy could unite the people only under the condition of total ignorance. Now most of the free-thinking society requests of our guests from the XII century to remove the legs from the table that they've put there. It is only in this. As soon as his feet will be removed and will take them to the allotted space on the Constitution, any claim there and then disappear.

[zarajara]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I thought recounted Alexander Nevzorov :

Awful , but not surprising for gay communities.
Oh, and wanted to add that as I - a woman, and therefore from the standpoint of the church standing on the lowest rung of the hierarchy , I do not love and no respect for this very hierarchy of " God himself commanded " <! - 7 ~ ~ - ->

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Lucy ; 2108541"

It seems to me that "it " , another PR move that he made ​​a Gelman and his team .

But whose is PR move ?
Walk artists

It is unclear why they came , " orthodox " activists. Young people have started to bear some sort of heresy, of offending their religious feelings, waving a bible and claim all immediately believe and stop disgrace. The people did not understand what was wanted of him , because the march to religion in general did not have a relationship , and work on the subject of religion was not. Activists of the amplifier include some strange music and began to preach , the artists decided to beat them <! - 6 ~ ~ ->. In general, a couple of small skirmishes did not spoil a holiday, and soon the orthodox left.

[Вивьен]

Сообщение от SAH; 2109201 '

What about the congregation ? They go to hapless therapist should be , too? Artists should attend? Well, take for example Andrei Rublev had a weak mind ? El Greco, Bosch ... mass of brilliant artists deeply religious that clearly displayed on their canvases .

Well for Bosch , I think no one is crying psychoanalyst , with his Garden of Earthly Delights <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от zarajara; 2109761"

awful, but it is not surprising for the gay community.

For me, "awful" it is the cynical hypocrisy of these "religious leaders".
How can they believe in something, as they are, then the words can be taken seriously?

Сообщение от Konstantin; 2109771"

And here is whose PR move?

Here's how opisyvet situation here with a walk hudozhikov a "Chapter of the Association of Orthodox Experts (AFE) and the Corporation of Orthodox Action":
Either Russia "crushed snake" or "bastard crush Russia":

[

COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"] Orthodox missionaries stopped blasphemy

Several dozens of Orthodox laymen held their "festivities" on Yauza, Pokrovsky Boulevard and Chistoprudny. They were joined by many members of the Orthodox Youth Festival "Faith and Action", held in the prefecture of the Central Administrative District. Orthodox Christians held and chanted "Moscow - the Third Rome, the capital of the enemy will not give up." Some of the participants' march-walk "has gone on Candlemas Boulevard, which hosted the" festivities "" belolentochnoy opposition "headed by N. Samodurov, organized offensive to Orthodox Christians of the exhibition" Caution, Religion ". In their exhibition "Modern art" turning around a hundred people. There's a group of Orthodox missionaries distributed leaflets about Orthodoxy, about the necessity of repentance. One missionary, Vladimir Andreev saw blasphemous "exhibit"-picture "crucified on the cross member of the" Pussy Wright, "and broke it. He barely escaped from the group" belolentochnikov "which threatened him with physical violence.

In the CAP noted that there are numerous witnesses to this. More than that. The Corporation of the Orthodox consider it necessary to open a criminal case against Samodurov and Co as in fact insulting religious feelings in the painting "The Crucifixion member of Pussy Wright," in fact some participants wearing T-shirts with offensive caricatures of the church, as well as the fact of the desecration of the national flag of Russia. One of the "" exhibits, vulgar tabloid show "- a woman with a stiff skirt, legs up, painted under the national flag of Russia.

Another nasty "exhibit" - is the image of Russia without the post of President, that is decentralized and devoid of sovereignty.

Significantly, the "petty tyrants belolentochnye" mocked the cross and Russia on the birthday of the king-martyr of All-Russian Emperor Nicholas II, was brutally murdered as a godless man who represents the Russian Orthodox anti-church members gosudarstvennost.Sredi Russophobic Sabbath was marked by Ch. editor of the anti-Catholic site "Credo" Soldatov.

We have seen a dirty anti-Catholic and anti-Russian campaign, which is a clear demonstration that the "belolentochnoe movement" created by the enemies of the Church and the Fatherland. So either Russia "crushed snake" or "bastard crush Russia."
 [/COLOR]

 <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от zarajara; 2109721"

For instance, you agree to when you called his flock and himself - as pastors ? It disgusts me, just to disgust .

Did you enter into any flock ?

You obviously have not read the Gospel, when Jesus said to Peter : "Feed my sheep ."

Christ - the Good Shepherd, and he himself went to the slaughter as a lamb .

Do not you never heard about it ?

Ask a question : so who is the pride ? more you have, and not the Orthodox clergy .
Here is a story about one of them , Archbishop Luke ( Voyno- Yasenetsky ):

http://youtu.be/XPDG27gc_ko


Posted 1 minute

Сообщение от zarajara; 2109761"

because I am - a woman, and therefore from the standpoint of the church standing on the lowest rung of the hierarchy ,

You are generally outside the church hierarchy, because it is not no nun or abbess .

So do not be offended.
You do not relate to the hierarchy of the church in general, do you understand?