Baptism

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Artem

to the Orthodox tradition, this has nothing to do.

In your opinion - it does not, in my opinion and the opinion of millions of Orthodox - has.


If we Orthodox have a common custom, then it is orthodoxy.


As they say, porridge, butter will not spoil.

[Артём]

Ok!
Be on your.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

The Orthodox are funny: they have a common custom to celebrate the New Year exactly at the time of Advent - drinking wine and vodka, eat plenty of festive foods, fun, sing and dance ...
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[tivat]

The Orthodox are funny : they have a common custom to celebrate the New Year exactly at the time of Advent - drinking wine and vodka, eat plenty of festive foods, fun, sing and dance ... >
Well, what ? Millions of Orthodox Christians have such a widespread custom .

And you insist on only strict Orthodoxy? >

[Кирилл Сызранский]

O. Andrei Kuraev: "It's time to open the most terrible secret: we Orthodox Christians - sick people."

[Артём]

Сообщение от tivat; 1939181"

you insist only on the strict orthodoxy ?

tivat, and that Orthodoxy is strict and lax ?

have a common custom to celebrate the New Year exactly at the time of Advent - drinking wine and vodka

Or is it true?
A Christmas Eve and Epiphany morning liturgy ? That's where the Orthodox Baptism should be ! We keep it all ? Epiphany post communion, taking Agiasmy . And after all this, and you can play around in the river and drink vodka .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Artem ; 1940521"

Orthodoxy is strict and lax ?

Of course.
According to current Russian inhabitants - "strict " orthodoxy - a churching , the life of an Orthodox Christian with his arrival , etc.
A " non-strict " - the golden cross , " jingoistic rhetoric ", conformism , and , most importantly, lives under the motto "the power of God, we are small people ."
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[Артём]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 1940661"

According to the modern Russian inhabitants - "strict" orthodoxy - a churching, the life of an Orthodox Christian with his arrival and the return of tithing, Bible studies, patristic literature and the works of eminent Fathers of the Church, etc.
A "non-strict" - gold cross, a corresponding entry in the questionnaire, "hurray-patriotic" rhetoric, hatred of foreigners, conformity and, most importantly, lives under the motto "the power of God, we are small people".

Well put!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 1940661"

, etc.

Can you tell a "thing"? As the saying goes: "In secret all over the world."
A month ago, when I was not on the forum, decided to retire to a monastery. Collecting the things, all notified and kissed goodbye. >
Was able to stay there for several days. turns on an experiment done.
Realized that not one of the molded dough. Man I "secular" and not be able to so. So - it is working with the 5 in the morning, the rejection of all worldly things, before the service can not even brush your teeth after, at about 12 mb can drink water, strict obedience, knowledge of the Scriptures by heart, etc. In short - hard work! I thought the movie will be such a Dzh.Gvarneri lonah Church. Therefore - jokes jokes! Heavily us believe apparently, or maybe just me. That's it.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1940661"

A " non-strict " - gold cross , a corresponding entry in the questionnaire, " hurray -patriotic " rhetoric , hatred of foreigners , conformity and , most importantly, lives under the motto "the power of God, we humans have little ".

Cyril Syzran I do not like labels, but sometimes it is necessary to conduct the debate and in such forms .

There is an expression which , in my opinion, let the wide circulation Sergei Adamovich Kovalev - " demshiza ." That is, democratic radicals fanatics vulgar sense. And in fact - anti-democrats , shameless Russian public Pugachev -Leninist- type Chernov , who at all times, shouting the same thing : "All Down ! All down! " And nothing else will not and can not .

How do you think about this " non-strict " notion of democracy?
You say here with democracy ?
A reduced almost all the talk in the fight against

" hurray -patriotic " rhetoric , hatred of foreigners , conformity and , most importantly, lives under the motto "the power of God , we humans are small

called?

[artcol]

All these escapades "versus" no "better" and not "proper" escapades "for", with only one caveat - there is a historical tradition , and there's no getting around it . You can, of course, as Lenin - but a holy place is never empty, filled with something anyway , and not the fact that what is "best" and "correct" orthodoxy of the same .

Actually , it's silly to break spears on this topic - you need to think "forward" and not " back ."