Problems and prospects of the Russian art market - Страница 9 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

artcol · 26.06.2011, 23:48

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But we have with you , those who are a little versed in the art of the here and now , there is a slight advantage. We can cheap enough to buy a pair or two masterpieces. In the West, it is possible .

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In general , serious comfort . Because their feet jumping - vyplyvem

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NATA NOVA · 26.06.2011, 23:57

Alex Sander, I do not know the situation in Russia , judging by the forum itself and other sites.

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We can cheap enough to buy a pair or two masterpieces. In the West, it is possible .

I would not say .. yet unknown artist , everywhere you can buy cheap ( and very cheap!) .. Problem is , how they connect to ( an unknown artist , and the potential for cheap stuff hunter - investment) ...

PS: "Cheap " is like ? (which is on your " cheap "?)

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In general, serious comfort.
Because their feet jumping - vyplyvem

Especially, artcol, if we can guess the future star!

artcol · 27.06.2011, 00:06

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Especially, artcol, if we can guess the future star!

The main thing that I liked and evoked emotions.

kazerov · 27.06.2011, 11:45

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............. And you very correctly raised the issue of culture of buyers and sellers . First of all, even the customers. That culture simply does not. People just do not ... fantasy , or what? They stopped to look at the pictures. No longer take pictures. So they buy yachts , villas, but the art is perceived. As if people have something to cut. Judge even by their friends. Many of them simply do not see the pictures. There is not even a question , " like - not like it." Picture for them nothing ................................ But we have with you , those who are a little versed in the art here and now, there is a slight advantage. We can cheap enough to buy a pair or two masterpieces. In the West, it is possible .

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in the ten ... market and as such will be then when the pictures will be paying attention ... annual funding of ~ 3-5 million rubles, and in 3 years - interest in the paintings, but after 5 it starts to take shape. question primarily about money , well, or is that not the wealthy who want to spend money on it ...

NATA NOVA · 27.06.2011, 11:49

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annual funding of ~ 3-5 million rubles, and in 3 years - interest in the paintings, but after 5 it starts to take shape. question primarily about money , well, or is that not the wealthy who want to spend money on it ...
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3-5 million rubles

"Everyone !" (C)

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Still does not help.
there above the good example of a Danish doctor Mariners led ...
Money down the drain ..
One can only assume that such a mass of artists, this "space debris " from which the fall (sometimes) .. Star ( Comet ?)

kazerov · 27.06.2011, 12:08

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"Everyone !" (C)

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Still does not help.
Money down the drain ..
One can only assume that such a mass of artists, this "space debris " from which the fall (sometimes) .. Star ( Comet ?)

ridiculous amount ...

>. it really is possible in the upper range , but really ...

it's not about advertising, work at least not in the way we perceive it .

K-Maler · 27.06.2011, 20:33

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I do odd that ZAGRAEVSKY activities to protect the rights of artists and bring attention to the problems of the art market is met

Protecting the rights ? To attract attention ? Whose attention you want to attract?

I accidentally stumbled upon the internet problem - copyrights and posters. Artist Larisa Psareva successfully exhibited in London , after which her picture without her knowledge were replicated as posters , spreading to China ( on spoons , cups , etc.) and in it. Protect yourself it can not, though trying to ... Some activity in this direction (I mean not only that the artist, total prblemu ) at least voiced ZAGRAEVSKY ? To the problem sounded and concrete steps were taken ? After all, say that Russian can be deceiving, they can not sue ...

Ольга Озолина · 27.06.2011, 20:57

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Protecting the rights ? To attract attention ? Whose attention you want to attract?

I accidentally stumbled upon the internet problem - copyrights and posters. Artist Larisa Psareva successfully exhibited in London , after which her picture without her knowledge were replicated as posters , spreading to China ( on spoons , cups , etc.) and in it. Protect yourself it can not, though trying to ... Some activity in this direction (I mean not only that the artist, total prblemu ) at least voiced ZAGRAEVSKY ? To the problem sounded and concrete steps were taken ? After all, say that Russian can be deceiving, they can not sue ...

In the Union address in such cases frequently , we write the necessary papers . Lawyer of good , inexpensive ( our regular partner) can advise . And in this case, you can recommend to contact our partners - UPRAVIS , they just do the right route.
Contact Upravisa :
107031, Moscow, Stoleshnikov Lane . , 11 , of. 353
tel /fax: +7 (495) 725-5915
E-mail: info@upravis.ru

artcol · 27.06.2011, 21:33

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The union treated with such cases often , we write the necessary papers . Lawyer of good , inexpensive ( our regular partner) can advise . And in this case, you can recommend to contact our partners - UPRAVIS , they just do the right route.
Contact Upravisa :
107031, Moscow, Stoleshnikov Lane . , 11 , of. 353
tel /fax: +7 (495) 725-5915
E-mail: info@upravis.ru

So what the real problem will it do? The union of artists or UPRAVIS ? I immediately went to a UPRAVIS . By the way, and they know that they are your partners?

And what else can solve the real problems of union painters ? Can any examples?

Ольга Озолина · 28.06.2011, 00:16

Artcol, do not waste time on matters not on the topic. And you did not notice that after a number of your past statements you in my earlier were ignored Nata ?

On the topic Aleksandrov and everything: the market acts the same way in all countries and all industries. Commodity supply and demand , it is clear. BUT! Each product has a concept of quality. So I would argue that the art of Quality "Goods" is defined by art history, ie place the artist in the history of art. Relatively speaking , the "quality " pictures Repin higher than the student Stroganov . And the price of quality goods can influence any other factor - the untwisted the artist's name , customer service and in the gallery , etc.

And vtyuhivanie buyer bad for the price of painting masterpieces - such as fraud , as a fake. And then, and more - the goods of improper quality.

I managed to combine terminogiyu market of art? Do not claim to authorship , I think this is elementary .

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Ольга Озолина Местный Регистрация: 04.10.2010 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 159 Спасибо: 44 Поблагодарили 202 раз(а) в 70 сообщениях Репутация: 395	Artcol, do not waste time on matters not on the topic. And you did not notice that after a number of your past statements you in my earlier were ignored Nata ? On the topic Aleksandrov and everything: the market acts the same way in all countries and all industries. Commodity supply and demand , it is clear. BUT! Each product has a concept of quality. So I would argue that the art of Quality "Goods" is defined by art history, ie place the artist in the history of art. Relatively speaking , the "quality " pictures Repin higher than the student Stroganov . And the price of quality goods can influence any other factor - the untwisted the artist's name , customer service and in the gallery , etc. And vtyuhivanie buyer bad for the price of painting masterpieces - such as fraud , as a fake. And then, and more - the goods of improper quality. I managed to combine terminogiyu market of art? Do not claim to authorship , I think this is elementary .