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Старый 25.02.2010, 19:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #851
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По умолчанию Elena Selina about the driving forces in the career of the artist

http://www.artchronika.ru/item.asp?id=1769 Interesting interview with Elena Selina. It would seem that things are well-known, but still useful to once again spread out all on shelves.

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The new generation of artists such no, but my peers, if they listen to - all "themselves have done." It's touching to watch a film about edakii Cinderellas who were starving in the 1990's (as if they alone), worked and - suddenly - it came to international success. There is no Cinderellas without fairies. In the case of the Russian artists around each - the team of fairies. Galleries, curators and critics. Do not deceive ourselves, without our international "old Derzhavin" you would simply not noticed. Would notice only small dealers.

Q: And what did not happen such success stories?

A: None. And miracles are not forthcoming. Without triad "gallery, curator and critic" did not take place. The artist should be interesting to criticism, the curator - to take work at the exhibition, the gallery - to show at fairs. Nothing else is needed. Practice shows: you begin to display artist at international fairs - the work is rapidly becoming in demand. And vice versa. Interestingly, this also affects the Russian collectors. If an artist sells out of the shop, but his life is not present triad - I doubt the success of its "small business". It is a pity that ethics does not allow me to voice in the pages of the term, which I call the art of this type. This in our gallery will be no more.



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Старый 26.02.2010, 11:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #852
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Pavel, I would not have been so categorical. Artist and gallery owner, are in common bond. The artist does his work, his gallerist. If both do a good job, then cooperation is assured. If gallerist promoutiruet artist, holds exhibitions and sells, then do not see problems. If these things are not functioning well, then you must go and look for another. It is very simple.

As for auctions. Paul, you know that the auction could raise the price for the artist and may be deleted. Prices often for a modern artist at auction can be ridiculously low and if the work will not buy, then the low price and locks (I already wrote about it).
Paul, why do not you try to offer their work for auction? Then you can talk about their experiences, rather than from books. Also consider the secondary market.



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Старый 26.02.2010, 11:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #853
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what is your irony? You yourself watching videos? We have a team of Hurst, who works for him - a pool of specialists.
Why do I need video? We had to communicate during your stay in Kiev ... But the question was not about the team, but a "buy gallerists, art critics ..." Create a team and buy it - a little different.



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Старый 26.02.2010, 12:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #854
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Pavel, I would not have been so categorical. Artist and gallery owner, are in common bond. The artist does his work, his gallerist. If both do a good job, then cooperation is assured. If gallerist promoutiruet artist, holds exhibitions and sells, then do not see problems. If these things are not functioning well, then you must go and look for another. It is very simple.

As for auctions. Paul, you know that the auction could raise the price for the artist and may be deleted. Prices often for a modern artist at auction can be ridiculously low and if the work will not buy, then the low price and locks (I already wrote about it).
Paul, why do not you try to offer their work for auction? Then you can talk about their experiences, rather than from books. Also consider the secondary market.
How can we promote the artist? The dealer is always an intermediary between the artist and amateur, and has only a percentage, but we have this protsetnt artist is not known.
Treaty with the artists if they conclude that conventional and compensate for their mistakes by the artist, in reply makes portory and kompelyatsii. The market is filled with this rubbish.
It is not that I could sell the painting at auction is expensive and prices are gradually and constantly changing, both upward and downward. The auction allows you to sell the purchased items and that creates a turnover which is called the market. In the Drouot auction room during the sale can be found as the buyers and sellers and owners, but most traders marshal-gallery owners. They set prices, and if they want something vzduyut to heaven, or deleted. The owner can stop the auction and withdraw the thing from the auction. This tool vendors. As a result rostut prices because everyone wants to sell more expensive, and balance those who want to buy cheap. As art becomes profitable to invest money, because the price they eventually rostet no matter what happens, but the auction can honestly bail money invested.
Look what museum items are sold at Drouot, I just look nice and they fall into private collections, and will re-sold many times. Owners try to save them for that kind of money, I assure you. And we have things just thrown in the trash, a lot of things, old and not so, such-as. Here is what happened. And then I and my paintings will take its deserved place what he deserved.



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Старый 26.02.2010, 14:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #855
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Pavel, believe me, in the west, too, throw! Even as a throw! (saw it myself on TV as it picked up by ancient instruments from which the Study Inst on "Antique Road Show" was estimated at thousands of pounds ..)
so that the "system" gives illogical failures everywhere!
I was and I also saw that, but there is an entire system of old-clothes and the buyers and the end everything is Drouot, then can and flea, a system that is and works and covers all the bottom up. This is where to get so many things for the auction. See here, and every thing that would once it was not sold receive a%of sale. That's make millions.




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Старый 26.02.2010, 14:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #856
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I am interested in this topic, gallery owners often complain that they were so hard to persuade the customer to buy now "so why bother to work with such an artist-model, or its interest. In general, the more I learn about gallerist the more disappointed



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Старый 26.02.2010, 15:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #857
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This is where to take so many things for the auction.
Pavel, I repeatedly come to mind here. west ..
One only programs about antiques and auctions (old material) with perhaps a dozen (as much about real estate, as much sick of the consumer lifestyle)
So. Cold-gododa-occupations were, Nebel-books are not fired never to keep warm, disasters such as revolutions and repression (when the house burned the archives) was not there, so the material artifacts-dam into attics-generational irrelevance warehoused, and therefore can Leonado the attic still on hand and .......( name forgot Sorry, graphics pretty racy), wormed his way into the toilet ...



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Старый 26.02.2010, 15:57 Язык оригинала: Русский       #858
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Pavel, I repeatedly come to mind here. west ..
One only programs about antiques and auctions (old material) with perhaps a dozen (as much about real estate, as much sick of the consumer lifestyle)
So. Cold-gododa-occupations were, Nebel-books are not fired never to keep warm, disasters such as revolutions and repression (when the house burned the archives) was not there, so the material artifacts-dam into attics-generational irrelevance warehoused, and therefore can Leonado the attic still on hand and .......( name forgot Sorry, graphics pretty racy) in the toilet wormed ...
Antiques are not only old or artistic now. The fact that it seems trivial slashing with the two-year-antiques. The country then you have a small, and we bless you. And you do not burn less, but do not yell at uglam.Religioznaya not religious, anti-religious. Here in China, the most active auctions, and because the Red Guards were.
Be a system-will and antiques. I remember used to be commission store, which just was not there. It's not even in there or not, but the fact that if more expensive, then what will not bylo.Dazhe if it's just buy it.



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Старый 26.02.2010, 16:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #859
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По умолчанию Here is one of the features on the topic. Tretyakov Gallery invites you to an open source project

http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews/20100226_gtg.html Here is a chance. Why not? Draft Tretyakov, respectively, and the museum will be a PR and media attention. Accepted only objects and installations.



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Старый 26.02.2010, 17:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #860
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Vladimir, thanks for the good news!
What is "instollyatsiya"-I understand, but from what is "art object"-not very .. (.. pot with fittings ?...)
What. exhibition will be just one night? What time? Or is it more necessary to ask yourself?



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