A stack of theses on the market confusion

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I look at the world and see that it was created.
Create it could only God.

.. And some believe-it-yourself vonik .. (dirt) ...

[SAH]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

.. and some say, he came .. (dirt) ...

It is logical to assume that they live in the mud. (By the power of his vision).

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I look at the world and see that it was created.
Create it could only God.

Many live in a world full of colors and love that God has created. Such as Igor Guriev for example.

[sur]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

. And some believe-it-yourself vonik .. (dirt )...

Сообщение от SAH

It is reasonable to assume that they live in the mud. (By the power of his vision).

 And in the mud and stench, the world-it vonik - wrote Nat.

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Сообщение от sur

And in the mud and stench, the world something vonik - writes Nat.

Strange (incomprehensible, inaccessible to the understanding, transcendental) way is almost always my typos some bilateral (three) smyslennymi obtained ... (very surprised) ..
I do not want (but see)

[Art-lover]

[As for Ecclesiastes:]

Сообщение от Samvel

Of course, I've been there, even before your pickup, but that's what happens. visiting tam.t.e understood little bit, as there it is impossible to go forward, or we should go forward in reverse napravlenii.Esli will understand more lyudey.to can be no progress. But whether it is good, closer to the understanding "(here I mean understandingly society, not the individual.)

While there is competition, there will be progress.
Understandingly company history is not known: the masses are always so tightly immersed in the arrangement of life, that they are not up to wisdom. Will it wont in the future? Maybe. Buddhist metaphysics, for instance, claim that ever happens completely universal insight, and at that point and come complete, the final end. But for the approximation of the happy ending we still have to work and work: as long as we do not understand what art is, about any revelation and dream of nothing

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Quote: Originally Posted by Art-lover
The confidence may be misplaced. Knowledge can be false. Faith may be superstition.

Maybe. And may not be.
So here Fifty-fifty.

And that, apart Fifty, maybe out of context?
The idea was that if you do not honor the hallowed tradition of the marriage bond language words and meanings, then the market will not be correct.
The examples I cited in a previous post, illustrating that in the ordinary and poetic language poorly differentiated "know" and "believe" sound, where boring linguist would use the word "certain" accent subjectivity successful adoption and opacity of its objective bases. Accordingly, the clarification of certain prerequisites shifts them to one of the poles of the scale, reliability, probability, allowing - not with kondachka, but with a high nose in the air - say "know" (how to solve the problem) or "trust" (that patience will converge). Where the case is measured referred to the scale (this whole area of our worldly occupation), knowledge and belief is mediated by a statistically and the extreme points are mutually exclusive. (If I know how to hammer a nail, you will tell, but I will not convince others, they say I believe: I can hammer a nail. And if I believe that in May 2043 on Mars will bloom branchy cranberries, then the precaution of not going backed its forecast for the words "here fail me at this place").

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The situation is different in the realm of religion: it is the scope of qualitative rather than quantitative factors, this theory of probability folds. If one says "I am 99%sure that God exists," and another "I believe in God, but I attend a doubt" - is very different statements. The first quote indicates, rather, the lack of faith, the second - only about its instability.

"I know that God is" - a very strong word. It may indicate the availability of special sanctity, direct mystical experience of communion with God, about the Revelation.
Or the holy innocence. Or the careless use of the word "knowledge", to which the language is stable ties importance of verification. There is no objective procedure for checking the validity of knowledge that lies beyond all knowledge, so there is no knowledge about it. One can conclude about God through His fruit through the tradition about Him through the signs of His presence, etc. but from the bell tower of science are irrational, consequential faith opinion will not be interpreted as knowledge, so it is better summarized by the formula "I believe in God."
Inside Traditions problem of the relation of knowledge and faith looks more complicated. Accordingly, difficult to address the issue of faith and understanding - but not so that "faith and understanding - it is red and sweet."
Here, at the threshold of divinity, silent. If at least someone will replace this text pill sleeping pills, then wear the keyboard can be considered justifiable. <!--~ A ~-->

[Art-lover]

To repay a debt Tiutchev. Interest.)

Сообщение от Tjutchev

And what, in fact, cheating? If you believe that "learned the art of using mind = reduce it to the thinking processes, then please explain," with "any other processes, if we exclude" thinking ", we can comprehend the art? What are these processes, please. Very interesting ...

Сообщение от Tjutchev

You claim that the understanding of art and understand it by thinking (which is essentially the same thing) is impossible or limited. I maintain that thinking - it is a fundamental process (ie, without comprehension impossible) to comprehend a work of art man. (Understanding - it forms a component of thinking and therefore can not be separated from him)

Thinking Processes respect. But besides them, there are processes of sensory perception, and direct, intuitive comprehension. Reducible to pure thought empathy interpreter in the spiritual horizon of the author - the most important procedure dilteevskaya comprehension of cultural phenomena.
The art we learn his whole being, not just thinking.

Overweight same pathos of the role in the humanitarian sphere of purely mental processes long denoted by a special oath - "scientism."
In general, the land - the peasants, to explain - scientists, understanding - Humanities.

Сообщение от Tjutchev

In the "philosophical environment" much-debated issue. The question of "understanding" is not the most complex and confusing one. Why scare people "with darkness of misunderstanding", the complexity of the issue and "collapse" forum? In fact, it is not so scary, but notions of "understanding" is spreading in the development of philosophy, psychology and linguistics.

We know that if you do something really understand, then you can explain it even to a child. Well, at least to himself. Now, take this simple question: how can thinking. Mankind is divided into two parts: one with good intentions, not in a position to answer it, while others do not see it as nothing serious. The first - a philosophy, and the second - all the rest.
All highly complex system of philosophy grew out of attempts to expand the concept of the concept, to conceive of thinking, to understand consciousness. (In short, philosophers - people without the concept, the purpose of which - to confuse the simple and clear questions. )
Understanding understanding - of a series of the same "curse" of issues. But you can not bother them, and take the article "Understanding" on Wikipedia, which will explain everything.
But not in this topic is as arguments lead out quotes like "Understanding - a component of thinking, one of its constituent processes: they spoil the environment and cause allergic reactions. And the story that I do not like: a weak, unfinished paper.

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Understand - this is a process. And nothing else it can not be. Process unconditionally. When you say that you "understand", it means that you are involved in a certain thinking process. A result of a process, not necessarily understood subject in its entirety.

Exactly. How would that clearly present. Here Archimedes: understood in the bath hydrostatic law - and with a cry of "Eureka!" immediately include in the definition process of thought. He then raced through the streets in the nude, from which it is clear that the result of this process, he apparently never realized in its entirety .

[Peter]

Matters of faith and scientific fact is not accidental is carried in different human poznaniya.I throughout the history of mankind, they hardly can be peresekayutsya.Nu excluding science fiction writers, the assumption that doomed the form of scientific facts only in our dni.Kak explain something that is not only not scientific facts, but also the words describing it nalichie.My all know that the Earth is round, that it moves around Solntsa.Dve thousands of years ago it would have been a matter of faith pure water. I've availability eletrichestva perceive a little more metaphysical, even though the physics NE leniya in general know . "Someone might believe, Fifty fifti.Pochemu Evangile spoke in parables?" And how else to tell people about that world order is more complicated their understanding of the world, to show its main pillars and priorities? "This world will end when science and faith will come to a vanishing point, in other words, when a man knows God, and then merge with nim.Budet destroyed the greatest of contradictions the essence of our Vselennoy.Predpolozhitelno it will not so soon .

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Peter

matters of faith and scientific fact is not accidental separated into different areas of human knowledge.

It is no longer separated. In Internet advertised movie recorded on the disc, which scientists have created. It's called "House" (in English).. There is a view of Earth. In this film, created by scientists from different countries together (ie, those who adhere expressed in the movie point of view) before they attempt to explain why they, the researchers nevertheless believe that God exists.

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Сообщение от K-Maler

represented their attempt to explain why they, the researchers nevertheless believe that God exists.
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Of course there is! (Only "Metaphorically ")...