Creating models of ships - the art, craft, interest for collectors ...

[AlexB]

Dear Eugene.
 
Links to search, a waste of time, especially to rummage in the archives of the Christies. So sorry ... But the French ssylochku please www.arsenal-modelist.com; http://modelisme.arsenal.free.fr/artdumodelisme/. The French have a lot of sites, commercial, only two more clubs.
Look at these sites, the links you can find many interesting things from the French and Belgians (http://rimbr.chez.com/liens01.ht) is a page with a bunch of links.

As shown by your ship, and the site, you probably think that we have no information about it? I know perfectly well by the model, the owner of the site and vehicles that they produce (which is produced as souvenirs and the price you have already seen).
So most of the ships on the site of Igor Pertseva (business owner) made (not created) back in the nineties Petrograd modelers (not master) Igor Jenny. Not a master, and let Igor understand correctly, it does not recognize the equal yet those who have recognized each other as the master. Models Igor rather not bad. However, it is far from perfect (and he himself understands, fortunately). Very good and expensive souvenir for the interior, but unfortunately no more.
And what about the site? This is one of the examples are not good supply of information. Models built on the site once in a single copy and perform the same role as the "best vysavochnye coffins" in Wizard Bezenchuk. Sale model built in the shop where working immigrants from Central Asia (Tajiks, Turkmens), well вобщем people can with his hands and head, but very far from the mentality of this species of art. We must pay tribute to Igor Pepper, who took care of a good material base (n machines etc.). Advise them of course himself Igor Jenny. Let's just say the shop superintendent at the company Igor Pertseva. At the exit, the model is very far from the advertised sample. And this is understandable. The unique model can only create a master, and not even a shop of experienced workers (but without inspiration).

[navymast]

Сообщение от Eugene

Dear AlexB, if there is write:

I once fell out of the conversation, so many lines of conversation have accumulated, which need to be discussed and cleaned from the "opinions". "Opinion" is when something mnitsya. I will respond soon, then We will understand the rest. Eugene, in the beginning of the theme I have posted several articles, including the collection of family Krigshtayn (http://yahooeu.ru/interesting/13609-...igshtajn..html). There is material on the collection of Colonel Rogers. These are articles which refer to things that are called collections. No souvenirs "handmade" or exclusive gift or something else out there. I was a little later will place material on the collection of Colonel. Look for the collection of family K. See the history of the collection, look at the exhibits. We are talking about the works of quality, which does not presuppose the existence of sites of collectors of these items. Sites can collect matchbox labels, badges and other items of worship. The fact that you've put in the form of options hobbiyny models, which aims to take the time philistine played nervousness of office life. People have a rest and relax. The fact that they have thus obtained can be called a model. But in this case and drawing kid 5 years must also be called painting. Theme was created in order to consistently deal with the fact that there are models and what it is. Including the fact that the collector can get interesting as the product of these different branches modelihma. Interest is organized as a sequence of information on disperse myths and misconceptions of opinions. And if the article in the topic is, it is not to make it just took place. Thank you have read.

[Евгений]

Dear AlexB, You write:

Сообщение от AlexB

Links to search, a waste of time, especially to rummage in the archives of the Christies. So sorry

But this is also your words:

Сообщение от AlexB

Over 15 years of observations of these sales (called a sea of art objects), there is a progressive tendency to reduce the number of lots.

The issue of pricing models of the ships is important ... I have a union catalog of auction sales of the 19 th century models of merchant ships (sample, maximum sales not in the database) and there the prices ranged from 3 t-12t.evr .... just on the collection model rather than on modern products ..
That's why I asked exactly auctions of contemporary models of ships (known contemporary masters) at Sotheby's, Christie and then it will be understood by the level of prices for current models of ships.
Now until between 500 (as you say) 250t.evr.Soglasites spread wide ..
And without showing the actual sales of contemporary models at auctions in Europe, the United States until the question is open for pricing.
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Сообщение от navymast

photo models from this collection.

Dear navymast, a collection of the Maritime Museum of Monaco (includes a private collection of models of ships Pallanza and Prince Rainier III.) Accidentally fotogrofy not? The site of the museum photos are very small and the quality horrible.

[AlexB]

No answer from the spread question: Is there a difference between the boat and battleship? Otyuda and scatter. Regarding the reference to 600.000 funovy lot, try to find (sorry not right now). But if colleagues will help poise, toko will be happy.
Vitali, if you have time, look what they have NARIM? He seemed to Tech House, Minimal Christie results of its sales? Respecting the inquirer pliz ...

[Евгений]

[AlexB]

Here is something that I found.
The earliest catalog of 2001, he was two and a half times thicker than the last 2006 go.Na face downward trend in the proposals that is - Decreasing number of worthy models. Since 2007, the first at Christie's did not hold auctions on the theme "Maretime models".
It included, as a model (ancient and modern) as well as steering wheels, compasses, old sea trinkets etc. etc. in the flesh to the decor of this old ship, but gradually became prevraschatsya in baroholku (truly worthy models and things became less and less, and boxed-level models - more and more), and povidimopu, so as not to sink to the level of garbage they have closed this thread may for a time, leaving only a "Maritime art" (which are sometimes spotted and the model).

I will try to attach the address with the last auction on November 11 (note - almost all the lots sold, and so it was with the normal model)
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... a2221 & pg=2

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Yes, a similar situation in another well-known auction Sotheby's. Now selling single model, although if you open the archive, prior to the sale was a sufficient number of well deserving of models:
http://browse.sothebys.com/?sla=1&sl...0 & search = +
The trend, however.

[Евгений]

[Евгений]

LOT 40

[AlexB]

Сообщение от Eugene

AlexB, I asked you to show 2-3 of contemporary models of ships (known masters) .. yet received a response from models of 18 beginning of 20 century.
Much thanks for this ..
Link to Christie does not open.

Do not worry Eugene for this case would not. And yet look modern model (under construction). Such a model does not indentifitsiruetsya at the championships. Because for the championship is no right to assess such models.

[sheve]

Eugene, are two models NARIM Maygeldinova: