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Сообщение от U_Z

I suggest you contact the publisher "White City", there is inserted leftists, in their little books, though I do not know under what conditions! Good luck

You are absolutely right about this many times already written
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(03.2008g)
"... At the presentation of counterfeit directory publishers to display a huge list of works attributed to Russian artists, which were published in popular albums Publishing White City "..."
  http://themoscowlife.ru/articles/med...eniy_3343.html
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(2008god)
As told to "Trud" the most competent in Russia, an expert in the field of Russian landscape painting, Vladimir Petrov, and last year published by the "White City", specialized in production of art books, an album dedicated to the work of the famous artist and marine painter of the XIX century Alexei Bogoliubov. And it is already on the front pages - a picture-perelitsovka, painted by the Danish-German artist Louis Gurlitta, which is estimated in Russia is 50 times smaller than the original Bogolyubov.
- Yes and no matter the cost - is outraged Vladimir Petrov. - Because of the fakes are now killed the name of the author of this picture.
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The most striking thing that the false picture sometimes advertised in solid release! According to experts, Vladimir Petrov, in the album "Lev Lagorio", issued by the distinguished publishing house "White City", about thirty (!) Paintings belong not Lagorio, and Danish, German and French painters! And on this album has students-art, completely unaware trick. http://msforum.samaradom.ru/lofivers...php/t5930.html
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[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Last year, I personally negotiated with the publishing house "White City" about the publication of the album a contemporary artist. Publishing requirements are minimal:

0) Money from 300 rubles
1) Text
2) Photo

They do not check and dully printed. I was told two limitations: there should be no pornography and Nazi propaganda. I did not use their services because of the fairly average print quality.

    I admit that some fraudsters may spend about 10 thousand dollars for publication alborma counterfeiting, to argue that malosveduschim to potential buyers - a new Russian:
  "Indeed!" Here is a picture in a series with albums and Ayvazovski Rembrandt! "
Someone may buy without a serious examination. Our people still believe the printed word, especially glossy. Indeed, a sensible idea! If I were a seller of expensive imitations - I would have done so. Shall make a reservation - not necessarily in this company. Although ... The name of the series - something there about the world's masterpieces, or painters - drew.

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Сообщение от U_Z

Sorry for the harshness, but could not keep silent!

And that explain something?

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

If I had been the owner of this picture, how would I have behaved in his place?

First, it would make enough high-quality photo as the whole picture, as well as fragments, coarse. Yes, it would have trouble, perhaps, attract each other with a normal memory capacity. Send light or work later in Photoshop, reaching a maximum matching of original and digital images. Otherwise, it is possible that people will watch and talk about a completely different picture.

Secondly, it would be ready for any opinions, are necessarily divided into quite the opposite. And everyone would have been grateful, even a negative opinion. At the forum, any picture, caused controversy, has something interesting. Participants do not talk, do not argue and did not hamyat (sometimes!) Just about perfectly "zero" works. As there, in mathematics: the impossibility of the solution is also a solution to the problem. All thanks!

Thirdly, no one would have believed it. It is impossible for the poor photo attributirovat now, if often mistaken, even experts from laboratories and expensive equipment. But all would take note, and on the information developed would be a plan for further action.

Fourth, if you can not identify the author, or if it is not Kuindzhi (in which I personally strongly doubt), then I would hang a picture in his house in a prominent place. And for the entertainment of guests came up to family legend, as now to take in the advertising business. If you do not sell it - it will not be tricked. And interesting guests, and you are pleased.

Success!

[Сергеич]

Сообщение от heir

... you want to sell now? No problem, buy it.
You want to sell as dearly as possible? Then work out a strategy, invent provenance, in the end, go to Ukraine. There you will be given a certificate that it Vrubel, Aivazovsky ...
But I would have "insisted" all the same to Arkhip Ivanovich, and not for himself but for the buyer, which, if the moon, then - Kuinji.

.... It is a pity that you have trimmed this picture in an unfavorable context for its sale.

Are you seriously advise? It remains to advise signing Kuindzhi, for a more successful sale.

Сообщение от heir

However, this is understandable - Here, there are no gods. As at the forum, from which he came here for a more distinct and, as it seemed to him a competent opinion on the quality of painting.

A competent, it would be only in the case of recognition of authorship Kuindzhi?
And if there are no gods (and I think just the opposite, there is a very serious connoisseurs), but even scum - why you are here, too?

[ранжер]

Vladimir, you have no pedigree in the French or Anglo-Saxons? Oh you are not in Russian logotsentrichny.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от ranzher

Vladimir, you have no pedigree in the French or Anglo-Saxons? Oh you are not in Russian logotsentrichny.

Granted, not as you first ask. Even when I "shook rights" abroad, in a hotel, they took me for a German, despite my zero German and bad English. No wonder I work as an expert (on construction).

But this is a coincidence - in my family was not provincial foreigners.

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Сообщение от Sergeyitch

Are you seriously advise?

Seriously.

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

And if there are no gods (and I think just the contrary, there is a very serious connoisseurs), but even scum - why you are here, too?

Company matching. However, with some exceptions ...

[Дмитрий]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

First, it would make enough high-quality photo as the whole picture, as well as fragments, coarse. Yes, it would have trouble, perhaps, attract each other with a normal memory capacity. Send light or work later in Photoshop, reaching a maximum matching of original and digital images. Otherwise, it is possible that people will watch and talk about a completely different picture.

Make a photo-quality pictures tried. Used not very expensive reflex camera Canon EOS 400 D with a professional lens, Canon EF 24-105 L, if necessary, applied polarizing filter. In carrying out the technical and technological expertise used Canon equipment of a higher class.
Photos are taken with a tripod, used a remote control descent. Teletext configured manually. Files saved in RAW format and processed first special RAW-plug-in Photoshop, and then in the Photoshop.
Maybe you can make the shots better, but my knowledge is not sufficient, so I would be very grateful for references to books or articles in English or Russian, which addresses the issues of professional digital photography of paintings. I still did not come across such publications.
At the same time I am a little confused by the fact that many of the albums on the art of illustration, sometimes far from ideal, but there probably are working professionals with good equipment! I was simply shocked illustration paintings AI Kuindzhi "Valaam" in a large album of Russian landscape painting of the same unloved here all publishers "White City" and the book still the Soviet era "Kuindi and his school, when I compared them. Colors are completely different, with the right colors, in my opinion in the book "Kuindzhi and his school." Then I was in a bookstore a few more options for comparing illustrations of this picture in other books and discover all the new options and new colors in this picture. Maybe there are objective problems of the transmission color of his works on photographs, which are difficult to solve even the professionals working there, or some bungler?
You are quite rightly noted the need to correctly set the light when shooting. For this picture, I think this is a very difficult task. It requires some special selection of colors. Perhaps best of all it looks in a dark room, cover it if the light candles. In this case, it is clear that the lower left corner and koryazhka - a dying fire, koryazhka - this is a great firebrand, the right end of which a little smoldering. But under such circumstances it is impossible to shoot without a flash.
I chose the option for posting on the forum take pictures at high lateral sunlight to most clearly show the details, though well aware that this work requires a completely different light.

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

can identify the author, or if it is not Kuindzhi (in which I personally very much doubt)

: eek:
Yes, I too would not like very much doubt whether this is not Kuindzhi
Simple himself entangled in a double negative, correct to say that I very much doubt that it will not Kuindzhi.

[Дмитрий]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

It remains to advise signing Kuindzhi, for a more successful sale.

In my opinion, so just do not have.
Here's an example of a highly forgery Kuindzhi, which nevertheless exposed.
In 1873, Prince Leuchtenberg gave the future Tsar Alexander III of Danish artist canvas seascape Anton Melby "Marine species. Sunset. Having survived a series of adventures, the "Sea view" turned up as the work Arkhip Kuindzhi, with the two letters were added to the signature. I would be interested in exactly where they were put.
Note that the professionals are not forged signature calligraphic Kuindzhi as a multi-volume, published by the State Tretyakov Gallery, and some secret sign, which is present in the painting "Lake Ladoga, in 1873, RM.
Those interested can find it, this good photograph visible.
I can once again repeat that now I do not sell and the price accordingly not stuffed.

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