How to work an artist with a gallery and a gallery to work with an artist?

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Remi

so-called galleries - shops, where you can find everything except art. At any purse - from 100 to 100.000. I talked with the owner of one of the "galleries" - he has such a principle - any visitor to something for yourself to find.

But this is not the gallery, and salonchiki. So and principles they have - to meet the needs of the general population. There on the work of gallery of speech does not go ..

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

edakii Casanovas of our time. What is the scope! It is impossible not to admire!

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

"author's copy" and "option". Are different things.

Rather, "the author's repeated," because as a true artist would not be, yes, probably, and not be able to (artistic opinion would not allow that state of mind ...) to make an exact copy. This involved students

[Posav]

There is a saying that the artist "was released in circulation." This is when the absence of new ideas starts to replicate in different variations of the early most udavshiesya work.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от Buscador

Rather, "the author's repeated," because as a true artist would not be, yes, probably, and not be able to (artistic opinion would not allow that state of mind ...) to make an exact copy. This involved students

Frequently Copyright repetitions and copies of completely different artistic level. Disappear mood, inspiration, emotion moment .... Unless, of course, we're talking about an artist, but not about the master of the art works.

I saw some of the artists work for months, vozraschayas to work, which they are dissatisfied. This is normal - slightly amended in color with a small element, but the overall impression is changing dramatically. It seems to be painting at 95-99%the same. But a completely different job.

It is interesting and for me this painting - the impossibility of repetition.

[Mark]

Сообщение от Remi

I talked with the owner of one of the "galleries" - he has such a principle - any visitor to something for yourself to find.
In Rostov on Don hang work the same as in the galleries of Stavropol, Krasnodar, Sochi, only the signature on the paintings are different.
Can do now exist gallery that sells art and handicraft products not? And how Galerie nahodyad artists, people who do and do not give "plan."

Dear Remi, point of view, unfairly quoted you the owner of the gallery not only has the right to exist, but in our time is, in my opinion, the only justifiable. This does not apply of course fashion "galleries," laundering "galleries" and "galleries" bought by husbands for wives, to the last "no bullies" on the street. In all recent examples of the gallery itself does not earn for themselves the money to pay the costs tens of thousands of dollars a month. In addition, there is also the target of the gallery. This is usually the formation of collector material, the purchase (for implementation is rarely a good thing to beg a) the paintings etc ... And also - exhibition activities aimed at promoting the collection. All together - it has hundreds of thousands, blurred over time in a little (slowly) in liquid assets and net costs, dollars. Negotiable same means, if these funds are not a "sponsor" purse, simply get nowhere. Replicable painting in high demand much of the population who do not profess a way of life "art for art's sake, but pursued a more pragmatic goal - the decoration of interior. Therefore, replicated painting (seriography posters, etc.) and is the main source of replenishment pocket gallerist, who is always ascetic, and that all available funds are usually invested in quality (with descriptive terms and in terms of liquidity), art. I know the gallery, where most of the space given for consumer goods, including art supplies (brushes, paints, canvases ...), but smaller - a real fount ... And one more thing. When the gallery owner, is spending hard earned and not a "sponsorship" money to buy paintings, then formed his collection (within the same budget) will be many times higher quality than that purchased on other people's money, which is not assumed. In general, the question you asked relates to the category of "eternal" along with the question "Should an artist be rich? Should he write to order? ", Etc. If, however, reject the false pathos, and with the high level of abstraction to move to the high level of not less than the reality, the answer will almost always be positive.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Very well said Mark, do not argue, nor add to it.

I myself can speculate about bad \ good galleries, when not engaged in this business, but only buy a painting for the soul. Ie My ENTERPRISE totally expensive, the "lucrative sponsorship" as Mark said.
I assure you - in Moscow galleries situation is bad - a lot of expensive scribble for new Russian. A good painting to sell hard and difficult. Because the paradox - shit in gold frames are selling expensive (counting on a certain style and the buyer), and a decent painting the client difficult to find.

I thought, and that's what happens. If I open a gallery on their own money - I want it to be, at least not losing money. And then everything turns out exactly as in Mark. Part of sales - for the income part of the territory - for the soul. Looking at his friends who often hung above the fireplace frank kitsch and daub, we can not understand that every painting has its buyer.
Question one - to find a middle ground and that the boundary at which the cut off entirely too "scary" things.

Example: normal businessman would not sell in their pharmacy drugs, even if they pass a huge profit.

[Сергеич]

Looking at my friends who often hung above the fireplace frank kitsch and daub, we can not understand that every painting has its buyer.

Open, please, what about? On today?

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Mark

Dear Remi, point of view, unfairly quoted you the owner of the gallery not only has the right to exist, but in our time is, in my opinion, the only justifiable.

Let me here you do not agree. No doubt, any company selling works by artists who have a right to exist. Each of our destiny. But still, I can not call their galleries in the full sense of the word. Or are we under the gallery mean different things. Shops selling products related to artists - certainly needed. But this is not every building in which are stored and exhibited works of art can be called a museum ...

[Mark]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Let me here you do not agree. No doubt, any company selling works by artists who have a right to exist. Each of our destiny. But still, I can not call their galleries in the full sense of the word. Or are we under the gallery mean different things.

No doubt, Semen Semenovich, I commented on the post Remi in the context it was created. If we are talking about "high" as compared with the Gagosyanom, Saatchi and the like, most galleries - general store, and their owners - the pygmies, including our all - Marat Gelman. I, just, and warned in his first post from unnecessary pathos, for all the "pure art" in our time is precisely the highest degree of manifestation of market-dishonest relationship.

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Question one - find a middle ground and that the boundary at which the cut off entirely too "scary" things.

Chernomashentsev Vladimir, you little dramatiziruete. Of course "terrible" side can be found anywhere, but it worth it? In what I call a replicated paint, nothing terrible will contain. This usually is the celebrated author repeats the most successful works, or replica, a variation on the well-known masterpieces, or copies of the masterpieces of fine art. They are rather good than bad, if the artist honestly, without a hack-work. However, the part of buyers, which is interested in such pictures, mostly hack-work simply will not notice that the hands of a gallery owner not to be untied. And the images are in the household must always be kept for quick money. Because the conditional sale of expensive paintings (from $ 20 000 to U.S. $ 50 000 and more) - is almost always Witchcraft, beyond planning, "the sniper job" that requires (there have been cases) months of work with clients and staff want to eat constantly ...

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Mark

When the gallery owner, is spending hard earned and not a "sponsorship" money to buy paintings, then formed his collection (within the same budget) will be many times higher quality than that purchased on other people's money not assumed.

Well, when there are both. The quality of exposure still depends on whether galireist adheres to certain principles, or trades that are sold. I think that you can not sell in a gallery of over 100 and for 10000 dollars ... Here, if I may say so - a qualitatively different buyer. As an example, you can bring a man riding on the "Porsche" or "Mercedes" and dining at McDonald's. " For a mismatch ...

[Konstantin]

I think that you can not sell in a gallery of over 100 and for 10000 dollars ... Here, if I may say so - a qualitatively different buyer.

Not quite. Not "impossible", but bad to sell in one place all in a row and 19-century avant-garde and early 20 th, and Socialist Realism. This is a sample set of the third floor at the Antique Salon in CHA. Where together with the pictures in peremshku - clocks and spoons. And different things at the price of one напрвления - normally.