Mark Rothko

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от eva777

Rich people know how to count money, and if they have earned them, they certainly are not idiots and fools.

The main rule art dealer.
Gold should write somewhere. : D

[SAH]

Сообщение от eva777

Rich people know how to count money, and if they have earned them, they certainly are not idiots and fools.

Controversy. In different countries the rich are different, some states have not because they are smart. : D

Сообщение от eva777

they are just with their money does not melt.

That is hard to challenge: D

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от SAH

A matter of opinion. In different countries the rich are different, some states have not because they are smart.

For the CIS countries this is true, but for the rich who buy art, even more so.

[eva777]

Сообщение от SAH

In various countries the rich are different, some states have not because they are smart.

Examples in the studio), please.

[LCR]

Сообщение от eva777

Rich people know how to count money, and if they have earned them, they certainly are not idiots and fools. This is a misconception to believe that someone that they can deceive. Even if they are not collectors, and collectors, they are just with their money does not melt.

The fact that the rich - are not fools, we take as an axiom. The second axiom: with the money they are extremely reluctant to part (see, for example, the story of Abramovich, who ordered an obscure Italian handyman to make for him "Warhol", not wanting to lay oneself out to the original). But do not, I believe, hasty to conclude from this that they can not cheat.
Not every ochen-bogatyy-chelovek/ochen-umnyy-chelovek ready to devote time (a lot of time!) Detailed study of the arts to make their own choices, with knowledge of the case. In fact, in most cases ochen-bogatyy-chelovek/ochen-umnyy-chelovek chooses not to purchase the object, and an expert on them (stock exchange, a specialist in real estate, art). And then another question arises: is it possible to deceive menee-bogatogo-cheloveka/menee-umnogo-cheloveka ie expert? Numerous scandals associated with successful deception and machinations prove that you can fool the expert without problems

All vyshekazannoe absolutely not applicable to Rothko (which, I repeat, I appreciate very much). Rather, it is a requiem for the rich anonymous collectors (or collector): someone who was famous for buying Krasnopevtsev over 1 million - to be honest, I do not remember whether the pounds, euros or dollars, but that is all the same - or someone who bought questionable naked girls Deineki (questionable, not because of naked, but because they were obviously stripped clumsy hand), hotly debated at this forum.

In short: ochen-bogatyh/ochen-umnyh relatively long, and infallible, according to rumors, one of Dad

[eva777]

I'm, like, refined - Collectors (those which employ expert advisers, and they simply invest in the arts) and collectors (those who collect the collection, for a loved one, and often, even a little, but understand, that collect).
And with the experts, LCR, you're absolutely right, to deceive, to be any.
And with Rothko, as far as I know, the whole collection rewritten, converted, and forgery can not be, because, all cataloged. If not mistaken: shy:

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от LCR

Numerous scandals associated with the successful deception and machinations prove that you can fool the expert without any problems

You can cheat, I agree, but usually is not just stupid "duped", it's still hard, but rather "confusing" already familiar to the expert, knowing at what points in the provenance, he drew more attention, which features drew the attention of passing, which makes the signs on fore, ie, knows his "underlining" professional.
But, although, and it is this "fool" ... : D

[LCR]

Сообщение от eva777

And with Rothko, as far as I know, the whole collection rewritten, converted, and forgery can not be, because, all cataloged. If not mistaken: shy:

Well, thank God. Actually I was thinking not about fakes (although the girls - very doubtful!), But more about the investment potential of purchased items. In the case of Rothko, I have no doubt, but in the case of Krasnopevtsev there

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от LCR

Numerous scandals associated with the successful deception and machinations prove that you can fool the expert without any problems

That only is the fact that the "experts" Sotebis prohlopali 200 (!) Of counterfeit canvases the Impressionists (and other) hands a modest school teacher of drawing ...



 

Сообщение от LCR

naked girls Deineki questionable (questionable, not because of naked, but because they were obviously naked clumsy hand

   podtverzhdayu.tozhe saw with my own eyes a clear forgery Deineki .. (my mail was left unanswered) ..
(Draw would at least be able, stydoba one!) And professionals (especially Western) to draw some do not know how they can be elementary errors in the building notice?

Сообщение от LCR

The fact that the rich - not fools, we take as an axiom.

And what about the moral uncleanliness? (also accept as an axiom?)

[SAH]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

For the CIS countries is true, but for the rich who buy art, even more so.

Vetievato you said in principle we can agree, while I think that whatever they were these same owners of capital, for us they are good when they buy, and if more and fall in love with the art it really quite OK.