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[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Guriev , Igor

1) It began , " byltyhanie winter hole " , I think , a few hundred years ago.
By the way, look like "summer hole "?

2) Well, you better know how an atheist , right ?

1. That in the past done the individuals I have no doubt. I'm talking about this crazy mass action. In Belarus, it seems , some 10 years ago this did not heard , but could be wrong .

2. Faith and the existence /non existence of the gods are totally different things categorical . Prove /disprove the faith it is impossible ( manifestation /lack of confidence as a category ). I do not do proofs /refutations that it is impossible to prove /disprove. I am not an atheist , I'm an atheist. I do not care .

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Well, here I am saying that the custom of old, very picturesque, and nothing bad in him no.

http://kp.by/print/news/1060877/

- In fact, dipping in the hole to the Epiphany has no relation - said today at the press center of the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" Archpriest, Priest of the Minsk Holy Spirit Cathedral Gordun Sergius. - I wrote a quote from a very influential book, even before the Revolution. The book is called "Handbook for holy priests":

 "It is customary on this day to bathe in the river (bathed in particular those at Christmas pereryazhivalis, guessed, etc., superstitiously attributing this bathing purifying power of those sins). This custom can justify the desire to imitate the example of immersion in water of the Savior, as well as the example of Palestinian pilgrims bathing in the river Jordan, at any time. In the East, for the faithful it is safe, because there is no such cold, such cold weather, as we have. In support of this event can not talk and belief in the healing and purifying power of water, consecrated the church on the day of the baptism of the Savior. Because swim in the winter, then demand a miracle from God, or totally neglect their health and life. "

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As for immersion in a font, in the hole, it can be kind of fun, may be an element of a recovery. If people are ready. But the church is not relevant.

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Well, here I am saying that the custom of old, very picturesque, and nothing bad in him no.

http://kp.by/print/news/1060877/

- In fact, dipping in the hole to the Epiphany has no relation - said today at the press center of the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" Archpriest, Priest of the Minsk Holy Spirit Cathedral Gordun Sergius. - I wrote a quote from a very influential book, even before the Revolution. The book is called "Handbook for holy priests":

 "It is customary on this day to bathe in the river (bathed in particular those at Christmas pereryazhivalis, guessed, etc., superstitiously attributing this bathing purifying power of those sins). This custom can justify the desire to imitate the example of immersion in water of the Savior, as well as the example of Palestinian pilgrims bathing in the river Jordan, at any time. In the East, for the faithful it is safe, because there is no such cold, such cold weather, as we have. In support of this event can not talk and belief in the healing and purifying power of water, consecrated the church on the day of the baptism of the Savior. Because swim in the winter, then demand a miracle from God, or totally neglect their health and life. "

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As for immersion in a font, in the hole, it can be kind of fun, may be an element of a recovery. If people are ready. But the church is not relevant.

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

I'm an atheist

the Lord gives us these characters His gracious presence.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Well, here I am saying that the custom of old, very picturesque, and nothing bad in him no.

http://kp.by/print/news/1060877/

- In fact, dipping in the hole to the Epiphany has no relation - said today at the press center of the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" Archpriest, Priest of the Minsk Holy Spirit Cathedral Gordun Sergius. - I wrote a quote from a very influential book, even before the Revolution. The book is called "Handbook for holy priests":

 "It is customary on this day to bathe in the river (bathed in particular those at Christmas pereryazhivalis, guessed, etc., superstitiously attributing this bathing purifying power of those sins). This custom can justify the desire to imitate the example of immersion in water of the Savior, as well as the example of Palestinian pilgrims bathing in the river Jordan, at any time. In the East, for the faithful it is safe, because there is no such cold, such cold weather, as we have. In support of this event can not talk and belief in the healing and purifying power of water, consecrated the church on the day of the baptism of the Savior. Because swim in the winter, then demand a miracle from God, or totally neglect their health and life. "

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As for immersion in a font, in the hole, it can be kind of fun, may be an element of a recovery. If people are ready. But the church is not relevant.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw; 1932301"

with respect to dive into the water in the font , in the hole, it can be kind of fun, may be an element of a recovery. If people are ready. But the church is not relevant .

In what sense?
What does the church? hole is not in the church?

I say that this is the Orthodox tradition - plunge into the hole on the Epiphany.

Where are you , comrade . Vladislav took about " superstition ," " purifying power of sin " and so on. I have no idea.

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

But the church is not relevant.

What is this?

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Guriev , Igor

In what sense?
What does the church? hole is not in the church?

I say that this is the Orthodox tradition - plunge into the hole on the Epiphany.

Where are you , comrade . Vladislav took about " superstition ," " purifying power of sin " and so on. I have no idea .

These are not my words - words of a priest from the link you gave me .

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev

I say that this is the Orthodox tradition - plunge into the hole on the Epiphany.

Orthodox Christians in the world a lot.
Some of the hole and no.

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev

that is the Orthodox tradition - plunge into the hole on the Epiphany.

Dear Igor Guriev, to Orthodoxy, this custom has nothing to do.
About this can you tell any honest servant of the church.
You do not seem to have tried to read what I wrote above.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

These are not my words - words of a priest from the link you gave me.

Well, that's right - think so.

The right of other Orthodox - to think and believe otherwise.

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

Orthodox world a lot.
Some of the hole and no.

Of course.

Some are not basking in the hole.

For example, your humble servant.


I simply said: beautiful Orthodox custom.

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Сообщение от Artem

Dear Igor Guriev, to Orthodoxy, this custom has nothing to do.

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