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[Kaffsky]

usynin2, possibly in your portrait of a girl

Hellenic origin, that is - Greek or ellinka ..
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two nice modern female Greek women.
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[usynin2]

Сообщение от Kaffsky; 1802243"

may , on your portrait girl
Hellenic origin, that is - Greek or ellinka

Kaffsky,
Perhaps something in the east face is definitely there. , I live in a suburb , just a Greek village (the bulk of the Greeks fled from the Turks and their descendants now live .) So, this lady is much prettier ! But can for my taste ! >

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just in the Greek village

In Gaverdovsky?
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[tivat]

Сообщение от Kaffsky

usynin2, possibly in your portrait of a girl

Hellenic origin, that is - Greek or ellinka ..
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For comparison, show photo of images

two nice modern female Greek women.
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You are hinting at Venetian Botkin?


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For comparison, show photo of images

two cute girls modern Greek women.

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Maybe something in the face of the east definitely has.

Generalized portrait of the Greek women with Alpine-Pontic features.

http://randevu-zip.narod.ru/europe/e...reek-descr.htm

[Kaffsky]

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you are hinting at Venetian Botkin ?

tivat, to Mikhail Petrovich and his works
is difficult to build expertise in this portrait.

To do this, do chemical analysis
paint layer, and receive confirmation from the experts at
compliance set and a combination of pigments,
 as well as the degree of drying, painting, created in beginning20th century. >

[usynin2]

That's what I obnaruzhil.Grafinya Maria Tolstaya in 1847 married Count Valerian Petrovitch Tolstoy, his second cousin brata.Posle wedding, the young have settled in with. Pokrovkskoe Chernskogo County Tula, 89 miles from Yasnaya Polyany.9 March 1775, by decree of Catherine II, was founded in Tula governorship, Chernov was appointed chief town of the governorship, and in 1777, with the formation of the province, district town of Tula.
With chernskoy land associated with the names of the great Russian writers Ivan Turgenev and Leo Tolstoy. At 5 km from the railway station on the river Snezhed Niello is the village of Turgenev, the former family estate Turgenev. In Chernskom area is best known names kind of Tolstoy - Nikolsky-Vyazma .. From this marriage were born four children from detey.Odnoy was Elizabeth Valeryanovna Thick g.r.V 1852 1871 married Leonid Dmitrievich Obolenskogo.V their marriage were born seven children . The fifth of the children was Yuri Leonidovich Obolensky, who is the father of most princesses Elizabeth Yurievna Obolensky and Nina Yurievna who have a family and kept this portret.Tak that the word "Chernyanka" is probably the correct designation is happening assumed many of the geographical name of the Black perhaps because the family Tolstoy called all living in this kind of Tolstoy's estate. Women in the portrait is one of the branches of the thick and Obolenskih.Po suitable age three women, but until something concrete is difficult. It is very possible that I found the author's portrait. Yulia Ivanovna Igumnov, graduated from the painting department of St. Petersburg Academy hudozhestv.Kstati, her cousin, the great pianist and teacher Konstantin Igumnov
BORN YI Igumnov in 1871 in Lebedyansky, ancient Russian city that appeared in the peaceful Don in the early XVII century. The defense of the southern border of the Tatar raids. Frugal her funeral in the Kursk region Lgov held in 1940 godu.V 1898 - 1908 she lived at Yasnaya Polyana I. Igumnov - an artist, a secretary and a great friend of the family. She made friends especially with Tatiana Lvovna, eldest daughter of the writer, too hudozhnitsey.Yu.I. Igumnov created several portraits of the LN Tolstoy. One of her works, "Leo Tolstoy riding Tarnape" is stored in the Museum-Estate "Yasnaya Polyana", she also owned and many pictures of beautiful fields and forests of Russian srednepolosya, cut by small rivers, which run slippery designated riparian willow bushes. And, if you look, you see, as in the lumen of shrubs vines suddenly flashes a bottomless celestial blue cloudy with a single cloud, the reflected mirror plane of the first water.
Yulia Ivanovna, drawing and children's writer. In his book, "The Tolstoy" VF writer Bulgakov says: "The room is decorated with a portrait of two very interesting: first, over the bed - a vivid portrait of a sick and lying in the bed of the artist Tatyana I. Igumnova (artist's little-known but well-known the family of Leo Tolstoy), and Second, next to the door of the room a portrait of Maria Lvovna of Tatyana: ugly, but a serious, thoughtful and inspired face of his beloved daughter passed the portrait of Tolstoy's very good. " But Tolstoy's wife Sofya Andreyevna did not approve of brushwork Igumnova, calling it a picture of rude and primitive. But we know that often solves the assessment of creativity is not as represented, and who is portrayed.
Here is a portrait of the patient described by Tatyana:

[tivat]

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Who can use this to put it mildly, bizarre canvas?

usynin2, have found use in the late 19th and Western Europe.
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[usynin2]

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found , used in the late 19th and Western Europe.

Thank you , tivat! Canvas on sparsity is very similar ! But in principle, this canvas can be used here in Russia ? Send photos to the museum -estate of Leo Tolstoy in Yasnaya Polyana , the specialist for this branch of the Tolstoy - Obolensky ... I hope something there sooner or later!