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Old 04-07-2010, 07:36 Original language: Russian        #61
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:48 Original language: Russian        #62
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I want to remind you if you - Orthodox: Christ - a Jew.
I want to remind you that in Christ there is "... no Elina, nor Jew" This Oftop.
And, in general, a strange tone in this debate. Fight? And why existents, in most, as I understand it, atheists, ozabachivatsya problems elemental boorishness?
What a man wants to quarreling (well, not always possible in the art without scandal), but to select the object poneytralnee. It is not clear?
That the Bolsheviks were honest: zhzhem icons and read the magazine "militant atheist" ... However, it is then condemned, including, of culture.
And today - sawing icon and is called artists?
I do not understand: who is "militant"?
This is what believers cornered smash Sakharov Centre, where there was going meeting to protect the rights of children?
No, there hooligan people who, almost without exception, can not hold a straight line without a ruler, "Master of Fine Arts ...
And about Israel: would (in fact, of course, would not by.Takoy unfortunate turn of speech) to see what would happen if there is to art - a project in the heart of which will be helps.ycp purely aesthetic, experiments on the lists of the Torah? Well there ... a little break, a little paint ... Express yourself intellegentnym people. By the way, can not they try to push such a project.

In general, surprised the presence of such a discussion here. There are things which, by definition, can not touch. And, specifically, with regard to these things and concepts manifests itself in cultural or uncultured person.
And the artists (even so), not gods and the gods - not them ...

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In my view the patriarchate wants to again make Orthodoxy the state religion.
It was until the 17 th year.
So they are cooking up all this.
In your opinion, wishes? Are you afraid of? Well, there is no clarity, offer preventive makes a mess? And if you do not want?
And who all "started" something to handle cases? What about the causal connection?
Actually, it's ridiculous: a dispute with Eternity.
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Old 04-07-2010, 15:23 Original language: Russian        #63
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artist, you vidili the exposition? Themselves-they were at it, looked the picture scandal?

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Actually, it's ridiculous: a dispute with Eternity.
"Eternity" is what or who?

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This is what believers cornered smash Sakharov Centre, where they went meeting to protect the rights of children?
They had "cornered" by an art exhibition.

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No, there hooligan people who, almost without exception, can not hold a straight line without a ruler, "Master of Fine Arts "...
Where none of the exhibitors are not hooligans.



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Aaron,
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In my opinion the patriarchate wants to again make Orthodoxy the state religion.
It was until the 17 th year.
So they are cooking up all this.
I do not know how it happens in Israel would have passed such an exhibition?
Although, there probably was originally no such country as Russia.
So there the "rattles "...
One-two (clicks fingers) - done. Orthodoxy - STATE religion. Tell us what will happen next?

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"Eternity" is what or who?

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They had "cornered" by an art exhibition.


Where none of the participants of the exhibition is not hooligan.
If you have the right to make an exhibition, then db and the right to protest against it. Those made by the exhibition, these cornered, and others resonate as for and against, the fourth broadcast advertising during the third, fifth happy - people are busy, the budget is replenished, is that nagging




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Old 04-07-2010, 15:41 Original language: Russian        #65
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First, you need to go to the exhibition, visit the exposition, previously understood that the most outrageous things to watch will have a hole.
No, the Orthodox in the hole zavsyagda zyryat, yes?
I would not go into the hole to watch. Even if there was chance - hardly bothered to do so. Already seen enough of everything. Now abstention. TV does not look 5 years, online video - disabled six months ago. Real politician - a dirty business. I am opposed to interfere with the art of real politik, with the mud. Otherwise the society will have to flee. Where?



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anti-Christian paintings:
Alexander Kosolapov. "Icon-caviar". 1995 print on canvas. Virgin and Child, but instead of faces - black caviar.
Alexander Kosolapov. Advertising McDonald. 2000 Face of the Savior on a red background. Sideways sign McDonald, and below the text This is my body. ("Behold is my body" - parodying the words of the Gospel of the Holy Communion)
Alexander Savic. "From Mickey Mouse on the travel history of art" in 1995 Lord preaches on the rock - an old engraving, which, instead of the Lord incised Mickey Mouse.
It is the same. "From the same series." Ancient engravings - the Romans grabbed the Lord in the Garden of Gethsemane, and instead of the Lord - Mickey Mouse.
Vagrich Bakhchanyan. "Untitled". Mid-80's. Photo Collage. Painting the crucifixion of the Lord. Instead of the head mounted Order of Lenin.
It is the same. "Izvestia". Photo Collage. The first page of the newspaper "Izvestia" on 10.06.1976, in the title instead of 'T' crucifixion with the Lord.
Mikhail Roshal, Fedorov. "Let's give the country of coal. 1972 Oil on wood. Painting stylized icon of the Lord Almighty. Instead of the Lord - a man with a board in his hands and says" Let's give the country of coal.
Vyacheslav Sysoev. "Apocalypse". Early 80's. The painting, stylized icon, bombing of the city and people in masks among the ruins. Above the "icon" styled Masonic eye with pig ears.
It is the same. "The light against darkness" in a series of DIY. 1985-1986. Images of the Orthodox church, the bishop, deacon, priest, with appropriate captions. As children's coloring and cutting with scissors.
It is the same. "Religious Procession". Early 80's. Night. Forest road, covered with snow. The figures in raincoats with hoods, in proivogahzah. front is a cross
While that does not really like to write in this topic, but must say, noted that most of the above pictures the actual "hitting" on symbols Orthodox Christians and are neither more nor less affront to the feelings of many, very many normal, simple, honest believers, depicting Christ with the face of Mickey think that this banal blasphemy, and absolutely is not correct for self-respecting citizen, man, sorry can artist and you can, but it is a provocation and an insult. Try and make time for artists, curators, too, think is wrong but it is already an element, I think - click on the button will get the result. For other pictures from the list of claims - I think brute force, this bust is nothing wrong with it and nothing to look.




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Oh, there is some association provoslavnoy youth directs the Director of the Moscow Museum of Modern Art Museum of the requirement to remove neponravivschiesya them "exhibits.
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