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On the shore of one of the German rivers, archaeologists found skeletons of people injured. Apparently, at this place once there was a fierce battle, which belongs to the Bronze Age.

During excavations in the river valley in northern Germany Tollenze archaeologists found a severely damaged human skulls, remains of wooden batons and horses, which date from about 1200 BC According to the researchers, the nature of cranial injuries suggests that there is no time to come together to battle the warriors of the warring tribes.

Scientists have based their work on the preliminary investigation, which began in the Valley Tollenze in 2008. Archaeologists have spent time not only archeological sites on land, but also engaged divers who searched riverbed. In the course of work, researchers found the remains of more than 100 people. On the bones of eight individuals were clearly visible signs of severe injuries. Most of the skeletons belonged to young men.
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Among the most obvious damage to the researchers noted a cranial injury - a man's head literally broke the heavy weapons. One of the humerus of another person stuck the tip of the boom (he went into the bone by 22 mm). Fracture of the femoral third soldier said that he apparently fell from a horse (this theory is confirmed by the fact that during the excavation of the remains found many horses).

Archaeologists have also found fragments of two wooden clubs. One of them is shaped like a modern baseball bat, she is made of ash. The second can be compared with a croquet mallet, cut her out of the bramble.
Ancient Battle
As said Dr. Harald Lubke (Harald Lubke) of the Centre for Baltic and Scandinavian archeology in Germany, these findings suggest that researchers stumbled upon the next big battle may be the oldest ever found. "We have finds of the Neolithic period, for example, in Thalheim, Germany. There are also traces of violent death, but it's not like the fact that we found in the valley Tollenze, where the remains of many people were on the bottom of the river, "- said the archaeologist.
The researchers found during the excavation or ceramics, or jewelry, or any other signs that people here have been specially buried with all the necessary funeral ceremonies. Apparently, some remains were moved from one place to another, and the rest were left lying where people fell down and died. Archaeologists also believe that some bodies were thrown into a river. Although it is possible, while this area was swampy, and lost themselves in the water immediately after death.
The hypothesis that the invasion originated from wheat
Dr. Lubke also suggested that the battle could take place upstream. In this case, found the body - this is only part of soldiers killed in the massacre. "I think today we have found only part of the body, especially as the modern river bed could be very different from before. If so, then in the county are still a lot of skeletons of ancient warriors. We need to try to find a place where the dead bodies fell into the water. This finding may indicate whether it was actually a battle or something else. But for the moment theory of an ancient battle seems to be the most likely "- expressed his opinion researcher.
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In the study of bones anthropologists found that dead people are mostly ate millet. Such a diet is not typical for this region of North Germany, so archaeologists are also considering the option of alien invasion of the tribe to the territory. Found during the excavation of bronze pins may indicate that the invaders had come from Silesia, which lies 400 km south-east of the battlefield.

The results were published in the journal Antiquity

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At the end of last year, archaeologists from Dnepropetrovsk Scythian statue found in one of the courtyards of the village of Great Aleksandrovka. For many years, served as a relic of the threshold ...! But, as we found a similar example is not an isolated case. Ignorance and barbaric attitude to history leads to the fact that the pottery at the age of 1,500 years, stands next to the kennels, fences and mounted antique amphoras. But let us examine the facts.

Barns and sheds in the village Parutino (Mykolaiv region) have much in common with ancient Greek temples. According to the archaeologist, the deputy director of the SEC "Lukomorye" Alexander Smirnov, located next to the ruins of huts Olbia (ancient Greek colony) since the founding of the village taken away as a building material.




"Local residents are already the third generation of treasure hunters and shamelessly plundering the ancient settlement. Refer to it as their property ", - says Alexander I.. The ancient stone, marble, attract builders not beauty. For many centuries it has "survived", was stronger than today's building materials.

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"Even in Soviet times, archaeologists saw the vandalism. The village rumor that Sarah will be disassembled, and all the buildings immediately covered with "fur coat", whitewashed, so that now ancient obloki not see. But some of these "bricks" may be of interest to historians, inscriptions, - said the archaeologist. - And in our century, the local "new village", there was a fashion - to decorate their fences ancient amphorae. The vessels, whose age is at least 2-2.5 Millennium inserted into a niche and fill with concrete (on the black market like amphora can cost about $ 300. - Ed.). To meet our indignation, "You have these ten pots, two that you feel sorry for?" Or "I like it from my grandmother as a legacy inherited what I want - and then doing."

And that's not all examples of ancient everyday life. Half the village is an ancient necropolis, and local residents, according to archaeologists, have not dug out the cellar. They are used to store pickles and vegetables ... crypts. Ghosts no one is afraid, because even grandfathers current residents climbed in the same tomb treasure.



According to the historian, there is no legal means to influence these barbarians. Only if you catch black archaeologist at the "hot", say, dug the grave - can prove his guilt, and even then not always. "We found the black archeologists dig right in time, but they left the tools and said," You have not seen. You have not had time to photograph. It is not ours. " - Smirnov said.

Gallery: On the Nikolaev adorn fences ancient amphorae

Chernyakhovskaya "bowl." Parutino - not a single village, where ancient artifacts are used "on purpose". "In the Crimea, still popular antique barrel" pithoi. " In ancient times, these ceramic vessels, tall person, stored grain. Now they pickled cucumbers - Alexander Herzen, the head of the history of ancient and medieval Tauride National University. "My colleagues have found chernyakhivska vase, whose age is 16-18 centuries, next to the booth. Antique pottery washed away by rain, my grandmother found her, picked up, but there is also the most of what was in the land? So she decided to put her Tuzik "- the head of the archaeological expedition of the Institute of Archaeology, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine Igor Gotun. Archaeologists have suggested that his grandmother enamel bowl, and she gladly gave rarity. Note that the utensils of this type is very rare, mostly dig up the pots.

Chernyakhovskaya ceramics. Used as a bowl for the dog

In another village in the Kyiv region, the old lady herself enjoyed antiques. "My friend and archaeologist vacation at the cottage, we went to a neighbor to buy milk. In the kitchen, he looked at the pots and literally lost his voice. It turned out that my grandmother used the daily dishes of Kievan Rus. Such a museum under glass are, as we saw on the table with melted milk inside, - says Oleg Korneev military archaeologist. - On the Origin of pots woman knew nothing: "Yes they have my parents used." Seeing our interest in their dishes, pots and grandmother gave even refused to pay, "Yes, what is there to take the money?".

FISHING: LURES OF SLAVIC Hairpins



Extensive use of ancient artifacts and fishermen. "I know that the ancient stone anchors, which would adorn any museum, is used to this day. Sailors are stones with a hole in the bank and then used in their motor boats, "- says archaeologist from Nikolaev Alexander Smirnov. Archaeologists faced with even more amazing things. "Comrades met a fisherman on the river bank, and one said:" spinner (bait for fishing. - Ed.) He looks like a Slavic fibula (the ancient buckle. - Ed.). Looked - indeed ornament, made over a thousand years ago, says archaeologist Igor Gotun. The fisherman gave him without regret - perhaps not old pike on pecking. But note that such items and collectors interested in a little. On the black market for the brooch will give you between 50 UAH.

Spoils of War: TANK FOR CSD


"Now go to the villages antiquarians," metallolomschiki "buy antiquities. Bought from villagers all the way to cast iron irons, but up to 90 could be near the hut to see a lot of interesting things. We have the same people as arranged? What I find - home to the farm! - Says Oleg Korneev military archaeologist - In one village in Cherkaschine box from under the German gas masks, used as a mailbox. Elsewhere seen pen for pigs. Fence for him was made from the trunks of guns without locks, where ¬-about 15 in a row. But "aerobatics" showed a grandfather. He rolled back the wheel of the T-34 and has attached them ... to the cart. Weight, the wheel was such that even an empty carriage horse is not pulling. But the old man "tuning" left nothing to change did not "let them stand." Surprised and a grandmother. We went to ask her about the war and saw the plates on the shelves of the Wehrmacht, the circle with an eagle. At our request, give the bowl to the museum owner snapped: "I die - then take away, now most needed." In another hut seen in bed with an army blanket seal "Berlin 39".

According to the observations of historians' memories of the war "is used with imagination. "I once saw a shelf in the house stayed on the wall of bayonets driven into the Civil War. And in the garden tomatoes tied to them. I've heard that in the destroyed tanks after the war, the enterprising owner did the chicken coop, and saw in Kirovograd, as did top turret of the tank to the well. Unbelievable but true - in one of the courtyards role pillars on which hung a wicket, carried barrels of guns "- says the military historian, director of the Metropolitan Museum State Border Guard Service, Alexander Fil. There are many cases where hens can pour water into the machine from the shop round the PCA, and watered the dogs of helmets. And in particular the price of "Kaiser" helmets during the First World. They are topped by a pointed ornament, and if you stick it in the ground - a helmet-bowl is not reversed.

Oleg Kornilov: "A grandfather has attached to a cart-wheel on the tank"

Mail-pad. The abundance of war "trophies" in the villages due to a huge number of abandoned vehicles during the retreat. Villagers recalled that the children even had a game: to run from village to village, without touching the ground for abandoned tanks, cars. After the war an expression of "go for trophies," look at the abandoned wagon train that ¬-something for the house. But is found in our villages-¬ gardens and older subjects. "I recently went to the Crimean village and saw a piece of wicker fence during the Civil War. The home team plugged a hole in the fence to the chickens do not run away. The weapon was "the preservation of the museum." Wooden handle has rotted, but the blade is well preserved. On the copper knob was visible mark of the plant (for lovers of antiques give the blade a $ 300-400. - Ed.), - Says archaeologist Sergei Voronov. - We were asked to give the piece for the museum, but waved his arms at us, drove away. "

No luck with archaeologists and chain mail. "We went to visit one villager and noticed a strange grid at the door - on her dirt to clean off. For fun, one of the archeologists looked at her surprised and said, 'Guys, it's mail. " State in the rings was such that age does not determine (a wicker armor and used the ancient Russian Knights and the Zaporozhye Cossacks). But the museum is such a thing would have been interesting. But the owner saw our burning eyes and shaking hands with greed snatched chain mail: "I was told that this is a valuable thing, but I forgot. Do not give up! "- Laughs Korneev.

Archaeologists have ever seen "at work" and bayonets the time of Napoleon and Kutuzov. The blades are stuck into the ground and tie it to the goats.

Bikers: Decorating JACKETS BOOMS


In the steppes of Nikopol under several centuries collect the Scythian arrows. "In the XVIII century they were used as amulets. Guys are supposed to guarantee a successful marriage. The girls have promised son, the firstborn. In 1775-76 gg. Cossacks were used for protection against the plague. These days they sell to tourists and bikers 20-30 hryvnia. Recent arrows adorn the collars of their leather jackets. Maybe there are new myths that help to boom from radar traffic police? "- Ironically says local historian of Nikopol Sergey Toropov. Note that the bikers are popular not only arm, but German Helmets. But no one philosophy or sacred sense in this. "It's just beautiful," - explains Hans biker.

MAMMOTH tooth brace Wickets

Mammoth tooth. It is worth about $ 30

"In the summer of 1994 I along with my friends studied the quarry near the town of Ordzhonikidze (Dnepropetrvoskaya region). In such places come across fossil mollusks, fish, amphibians, minerals. Tired of searching and heat, we went to a nearby village to get water. And while the owner of a house filled canister, we stood in the shadow of the barn. Doors propped boulder the size of a little more than a brick. I looked at him closely and saw a spiral of the ancient ammonite mollusk (lived 200 million years ago) - says the biologist, a historian of Nikopol Sergey Toropov. It turned out that the stone nuts chopped, and then put it under the door so as not to open.

"My colleagues have found mammoth tooth, which propped up the gate. Took him to the local museum - the story continues archaeologist Anton Panikarsky. - About the best knowledge of local residents said that's what the case. When young people come to us to excavate the mammoth skeleton, the authority said: "Yes this is a cow!"

SCYTHIAN BABA: Use a step

In the village. After rebuilding the house "step" was removed to the garden. Photo: V. Khodas

In the village of Great Aleksandrovka (Dnepropetrovsk reg.) Scythian woman used as a step, but after rebuilding the house put into the yard. "At the end of last year the village council workers told us about an interesting stone that lay in one of the gardens. It turned out that this is a Scythian statue, carved in about the fifth century BC, "- says Larissa Churilova, an employee of the Dnipropetrovsk National History Museum. It should be noted that the garden in question - part of the steppe. According to historians, earlier in its place was a burial mound, but it is plowed, but about the Scythian statue thought: "The economy is useful."

Sculpture. Now in the museum courtyard. Photo: V. Khodas

"This is not the only case of such use of relics. They put in a fence, fasten them to the loop of wickets. There were cases where they laid the foundation, poured concrete on top, - says head of the department of archeology history museum Vladimir Khodas. - My friends told me that in one of the villages of the Polovtsian sculptures made ... trough for pigs. "

The hosts of the court, in which lay the statue, left him with no regrets: "We must - take away." Now Scythian "receptacle of souls" is decorated with a collection of Dnipropetrovsk National History Museum. On the rare finding is the fact that at 70 stone dnepropetrovchan women, but only a tenth - a work of the Scythians (the black market such rarities sell for several thousand dollars).

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Archaeologists have stolen up to the killer of Christ


Events described in the gospels, many researchers are questioning, exposing their religious fictions, or, at best, historical anecdotes. In this case they refer to the Roman historians, thoroughly illuminating every little bit important event in the life of the Roman Empire, with its numerous provinces, but did not bother to even mention the crucifixion of "King of the Jews."

Meanwhile, recent archaeological findings threaten to strike a powerful blow to the skeptics. Rare finding, which has appeared in the hands of Israeli scientists, indicates the direct participants in the events, which narrate the New Testament books.

Three years ago, the Department of Antiquities of Israel has withdrawn from an ancient urn Cryptstalker covered with artful designs and engraved inscription. The investigation revealed that thieves have extracted ossuary (a container with ashes) from the burial site, nestled in a cave near the Jewish Elaa Valley, where the previously found graves of many ancient Jewish Second Temple period.

In order to identify the discovery, officials turned to Dr. Boaz Zyss of Archaeology University of Bar-Ilan and Yuval Goren, a professor in Tel-Aviv University archeology. It is unlikely that if the fighters with the treasure hunters suspected that give into the hands of scientists is one of the indirect evidence of life and death of Jesus Christ.

This summer, the experts made their conclusion, informs Daily Mail. As it turned out, in an urn the ashes of a family member of the high priest Caiaphas. The man who, according to biblical scriptures, persuaded the Sanhedrin to kill the preacher from Nazareth, has paid 30 pieces of silver-renegade apostle Judas Iscariot, and, ultimately, achieved by the Roman procurator Pontius Pilate, the death penalty for the Jewish messiah.

On the ossuaries, framed by a floral pattern, engraved in Aramaic: "Miriam, the daughter of Joshua, son of Caiaphas - the priest of Beit Imri." According to researchers, the name refers to the Beit Imri geographic locations from where the family of Caiaphas (just as Jesus of Nazareth be nicknamed for the birth at Nazareth, Simon the Zealot is named after the city of Cana, and Judas Iscariot was called because he comes from Kerioth) . Location town of Beit Imri scientists attributed to the slope of Mount Hebron.

Now archaeologists are covered by a desire as soon as possible to find the burial place where the robbers carried a precious urn. After all, there may still lie the bones of Caiaphas himself, as well as stored evidence about the life of biblical characters before moving to the Galilee. Scientists have determined that the search should be buried in the Valley Elaa southwest of Jerusalem - that is, where, according to Old Testament writings, there was a legendary battle between David and Goliath.

Recall that in June this year, archaeologists found the tomb was lucky one of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ. After 32 years of unsuccessful excavations, Italian researchers still found the tomb of St. Philip in the Turkish resort of Pamukkale. His tomb is resting in the ruins of the ancient city of Hierapolis, the ruins of an ancient Christian basilica.

Even before the sensational discovery was made in Rome. Scientists discovered the relics of the Apostle Paul, which were kept in a sarcophagus, found in 2006 under the altar of a Roman temple. Archaeologists have come to the tomb of a small hole and brought back the probe, which is extracted particles of precious linen cloth, a plate of pure gold and blue fabric with the fibers of flax.

Two years ago, archaeologists discovered the remains of a building in Nazareth two thousand years ago, which could easily live the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ himself. The ruins were found near the church of the Annunciation, built over the cave where the Virgin Mary was born. The find was made by accident, when builders were clearing the way for the new Christian center.

http://www.utro.ru/articles/2011/08/31/995462.shtml

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Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for Vladimir Putin:

"Putin did not find amphoras at the bottom" .

 

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Archaeology of the Southern Urals is a terrible picture of the apocalypse and coma

Chelyabinsk, October 06 (New Region, Julie Malecki) - Scientists of the Chelyabinsk region, archeologists believe that the conservation and use of heritage as a brand in the region will require a comprehensive program of targeted and serious state approach. Meanwhile, in the southern Urals destroyed archaeological sites of world importance, but the locals do not know the history of the area.

As the correspondent of "New Region", after the announcement of the South Urals authorities about re-branding in the region are continuing an active search for new brands. One of the main areas - historic.

Minister of Culture of the Chelyabinsk region Betekhtin Alex said that while in this direction only the first tiny steps. In a program on tourism, which reflects a historical theme.

However, in this area a lot of problems and home - protection of historical monuments. The minister recalled that Rosohrankulutra dissolved and a new institution is created, hence the multitude of problems. Thus, so far at the federal level does not solve the problem with security zones of archaeological and historic sites. Because it is impossible to put guard post or to prohibit the passage to the territory of a monument to all comers.

According Betekhtin in the area have tried, without waiting for federal legislation to resolve the issue with security zones at least at the local level. But the regional law, no federal take is impossible, so is currently preparing a temporary position on security zones. It will be of a recommendatory nature. According to official Ministry of Culture is interested in to restore order as quickly as possible.

According to estimates of the scientists themselves, is now archeological science in terms of learning, and even more protection, is in poor condition.

Archaeology in the Southern Urals is a "terrible picture of the apocalypse and the comatose state," said Head of the Department of General History of the Chelyabinsk State Pedagogical University, Professor Nikolai Vinogradov. He noted that the experience of neighboring regions, such as Bashkortostan, shows that the historical heritage can be saved and used to attract tourists. If Ignatievskaya unique cave - a monument of world significance, quietly dying because of the huge number of people coming back to the wild excursion, guarded Kapova cave in Bashkortostan is in very good condition.

Meanwhile, Paleolithic art, whose age is 14 thousand years in a cave slowly crumbles Ignatievskaya in the coming years if nothing changes, will disappear altogether.

Archaeological sites not protected from vandals and looters. So, Vinogradov said that in 1995 discovered only in the Urals plant Demidov XVIII century, has come down to us in the form in which it was built, quietly taken away by collectors of scrap metal. Meanwhile, it can be restored and turned into an interesting subject not only to scholars but to all South Urals region and guests.

According to scientists, the government must show it is the power to transform the historical heritage of the brand, will require state and the complex target program.

Archaeologists believe that in addition to the conservation of known sites, it is necessary to understand what we have. South Ural - a unique region, the point of intersection of the Eurasian cultures, there are a lot of historical monuments of different eras - the tens of thousands of the territory does not explored. Best studied of the south, the steppe zone. Very bad - mountain-forest, north-eastern and eastern part.

According to scientists, it is very important in terms of development of local tourism. Archaeologists say confidently that there is a monument to each municipality, which will allow local residents, primarily children feel involved in the ancient history of the area.

In addition to the protection and study of archeology in the Southern Urals there are plenty of problems. For example, the problem muzeifikatsii found by archaeologists artifacts, just nowhere to store, the museum is physically not enough space. All of these questions, scientists say, can only be solved with the help of the state.

Minister of Culture said that from next year the ministry will work a special department dealing with tourism and recreation activities and the development of special programs. However, everything depends on funding.

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Interesting finding.
So, 700 years this lay amber.

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I think more than 700. Most likely this era treasure Andrew Bogoliubsky dawn peak of the Vladimir principality. This finding has serious znachchenie . In arhiologii taken to assess development of any age , amount of found treasures. No treasure , then , how-to and nebylo nor any civilization. This is the biggest treasure of amber found today. If you spend time with today anologiyu is part of that same bi- currency basket dvenattsatogo century ( silver - dollar, amber - Euro - Dollar Cunha skins ). Almost like Schliemann gold , brought back to Troy. Now, in Novgorod is a good idea , would find something like that . Sincerely Michael!

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"Nord Stream" - a paradise for archaeologists

Where will soon flow of Russian gas, working with enthusiasm by German archaeologists. Depth, which will run track, "Nord Stream", rich in precious treasures. First discovered antiquities, you can now see the special exhibition "Pipeline and Archaeology," writes the Germania-online.

Small flat stone was a real sensation for the archaeologists. About four to eight inches and the age of about 12 thousand years, it has been used as a sharpener for knives silicon. A few lines on it are added to the figure of a nude woman. Archaeologists have dubbed her "Venus Birdenskoy", named after the village of Achim, near Bremen Bearden, where he was found a stone.

"Venus Birdenskaya" - the first female image of the Ice Age era, found by archaeologists in the North German Plain. The author outlined one line "causal place," the other - the buttocks, another two lines indicate the legs. Feet and the head of Venus was not found.

It is a treasure - one of thousands of prehistoric finds, caught recently in the hands of archaeologists working in northern Germany. Along with "Venus" was found by a number of more interesting artifacts: silicon knife, arrowhead, and the hearth. Archaeologists have explored the area in connection with the laying of the German gas pipeline NEL, which would connect Russia's "Nord Stream" gas pipeline system to Europe.

From the very beginning of the construction route, "Nord Stream" was a real treasure. On the territory of today's Lower Saxony discovered previously unknown tombs dated, presumably, to the I to. Mr. Oe. Some of them have retained traces of luxury: inside there were silver coins, gold rings and bronze wine vessels, which the Germans were brought from the Roman Empire.

In Gyustrovskom castle in Mecklenburg - Western Pomerania, the exhibition "Pipeline and Archaeology." "These findings will help fill the gaps in our history," - said Minister of Education land Henry Tesch. Among the 400 exhibits not only of antiquity: Archaeologists have discovered traces of the Second World War - a field telephone and the ruins of an American POW camp.
Source: naviny.by

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Wants to share some thoughts about objects of the Neolithic. I live in the city of Vladimir, where I think there are two well-known Neolithic Rusaniha parking and Sungir. Perhaps you can pay attention to the issue of no proper use of such powerful rekriatsionnyh resources, but I do not know. Sungir - Paleolithic sites of ancient man in the Vladimir region at the confluence of the eponymous creek into the river Klyazma near Bogolyubovo. Discovered in 1955 during construction of the plant and investigated Bader. Estimated age of 25 000 let.Sungir famed for its burial: 40-50-year-old man (called Sungir-1) and teenagers: boys 12-14 years old (Sungir-2) and girls 9-10 years old (Sungir-3) lying their heads together. Clothing adolescents was covered with beads of mammoth bones (up to 10 thousand), which allowed them to reconstruct the clothes (which turned out to look like a suit of modern northern people), in addition, the graves were bracelets and other jewelry of mammoth bones. In the tomb were placed made of mammoth bones as javelins and spears, spear including a length of 2.4 m. The burials were sprinkled with red ocher. By number of tools and decoration graves of this era has no equal in the world. Unless the French Acheulian and then when all put together. During the excavations, scientists have found more than 50 thousand individual items. Work was conducted under the guidance of renowned archaeologist Otto Nikolaevich Bader (Institute of Archaeology of the USSR). In the course of which it was established that there are two kinds of clothes top and bottom. Scientists have come across some articles whose purpose could not adequately explain. For example cluster of beads on the dress in the pelvis respected Otto N. emitatsiyu explains how the tail of a horse. With all due respect, allow dissent. Yes, if we consider these people as stupid primates is probably possible. Only here for some reason it's more like a replacement seat for safety clothing. Question number two for some unknown such technology, they straightened mammoth tusks and made their spears. Yes, for no Mammoth has been partially domesticated and straight tusks iznochalno bus. Question three, the mysterious welt drives. I want to ask, and lotus root in a section you've seen. And quite an interesting character Sungir famous horse you do not like! We sailors have such a device for orientation of the stars sextant. Skate or humpback Sivka burka kaurka broadcasting. Recently, an ode to French girl who learned archaeologist, exploring the caves of France Acheulian era, made the discovery fundomentalnoe. It is through computer technology imposed a star map on the drawings in the cave and imagine matched. Lascaux cave hall of bulls. In France, around the caves runs the whole tourism industry is earning money is not bad, and we garage and incinerator. Yes, well, at least got an amphora >. Sincerely Michael!