Mikhail Shemyakin: on modern art

[Тютчев]

Well, that's when I decided to talk, and companion take so go away! Pity! The conversation just took an interesting turn! Hopefully, Mona tomorrow will return to this dialogue ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Mona

Although me and reproach that I often truisms broadcast, but experience shows that the ascribed truth of art - the darkest spot it.

So what that "capital"?
Here and capital-many do not know.
Here I was advised to read Turchin:

Сообщение от Mona

Turchin - is mayor. Rare among Moscow specialists and best of Sovrem. art that we have written.

How then do not remove this from the shelf, for example, " Kandinsky in Russia ", do not look through and thank Valeria Stefanovich!

Сообщение от Mona

Well Groys on social realism

And thanks for this advice!
For bread and water and freedom --
Thanks to our Soviet people! (c)

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Mona

Who is SERIOUSLY suggests that the philosophy of art is secondary in relation to art history? art history just do not do science, and narrative secular discipline. TS base for writing an article in Ladies' Magazine. Few art critic raised above, and that is beyond art history (Chegodaev for example)

Frankly, I think that the philosophy of art is secondary to the Art. Because the conviction that a man who does not know art, ie object can not be truly interested in their philosophical constructions. In other words, talk about art, and even more so, to build complex speculative construction, not knowing it is very difficult. And do art studies in his field is quite possible without Horní theories. Though I must admit that reading these compositions is sometimes very interesting and useful. The flexibility of some kind appears ...

Yes, and philosophy, to be really consistent, it is not science in the strict sense of the word.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от LCR

active part in the progress of organic chemistry, for example, or molecular fiziki.Chto As for all these physicists, mathematicians, they literally beat the hooves of impatience - they need to administer the affairs of art. So it turns samostrok

Thank you for that observation. Can you find and smiley about it?

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Сообщение от Mona

And all this time the subject of art is the same: there is no progress in art (Zizek, quote tomorrow). If

Here I am with you and with Slavoj Zizek agrees. But Popper put it like that, that there is no progress at all, and that they understand by this term is a derivative of the personal ambitions and private interests and aspirations ... somehow.

[Mona]

Eugene, struck down outright.
Not Chegodaeva (Maria), and Academician Andrei Dmitrievich Chegodaev (1905-1994), Soviet outstanding art, her father.

I suspect that this is the most Liana Roginskaya (judging by the initials), I spent the whole evening yesterday insulted ..... But immediately clear about your guru. No, pardon me. Somehow later. Good luck.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Mona

Random people are not there either.

A kogo vy nazyvaete sluchainymi liud'mi?

To est ', vy ne priglashaete posmotret' i podelit'sia?

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Eugene

We are with you, LR and all members of this forum .. We are not relatives of Boris Gryzlov and close friends of Markina than we can say? ...

Ponial. Naviazyvat'sia ne budem.

[AlexanderG]

Evgenii, na forume my raznimsia vzgliadami, vkusami i politicheskimi ubezdeniiami. Ne raz peredralis' po vsem etim povodam, no prodolzaem uzivat'sia dovol'no dolgoe vremia. Navernoe u nas est 'obschnost' interesov i zelanie obschat'sia na vse eti temy.

Iz praktiki - etot forum edinstvennyi, mne izvestnyi, v mire, kotory stol 'informative, polezen dlia praktiki i dolgozivuschii. My vse pokazali vozmoznost 'dlia art obschestva sosuschestvovat'. Dumaiu, chto eto budet prodolzat'sia.