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Старый 02.06.2009, 11:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #61
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How to - all this false, mean all these competitions, they are the same all over the world are and we, too, he called the "Minute of Fame".
Why then, usually, the winners uboginkie, with a sad fate, etc.
It's like "House - 2", people who are looking assert themselves, due to the fact that there is something terrible and miserable people involved, but looking at them does not seem so ugly.
So this Madame, this is not a series of miracles. Last year, they, too, what the seller of mobile phones won, a good voice, but ....
Actually, what I have it all - I do not like amateur!
Experienced singers for 3-4 hours a day engaged, usovrshenstvuyut his voice, but here??
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strange that normal, ordinary people, you call "uboginkie, with the sad fate of" well, then write in the same company Galina Vishnevskaya (and I think it is not one), and biographies of famous artists?
We do not know how to look all our current "stars" before "restavravtsiey" or "remake", they show us is "polished" and sing something they rarely "live", although yes, a pretty on stage, glamorous.

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Cyril Syzransky she sang in the church choir, a bar, karaoke, doing recordings for charity drive (this is a link that I gave you).
P.S. about humor: "did not catch. And he was there?" -it is there



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Старый 02.06.2009, 11:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #62
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she sang in the church choir, a bar, karaoke, doing recordings for charity drive (this is a link that I gave you).
Well and good, what else should an artist?
As already recalled here:
The purpose of art - self-giving,
And no fuss, no success.
Shameful, does not mean anything,
Being a parable on the lips of all.
(c)

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strange that normal, ordinary people, you call "uboginkie, with the sad fate",
Are you really not true quote.
Here's how it was written.
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Why then, usually, the winners uboginkie, with a sad fate, etc.
What do you mean "common people"? Another recall of Poor People Dostoevsky. : D: D: D



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Старый 02.06.2009, 11:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #63
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y then write in the same company Galina Vishnevskaya (and I think it is not one
When Galina Vishnevskaya was normal! You about this woman: Given the nature of the raised voice, in 1944 entered the Leningrad regional theater of operetta in the chorus, and then began to perform solo parts! From 1951 to 1952, stepping down from the Operetta Theater, Vishnevskaya took singing lessons from VN Garin, alternating classes, classical vocals with performances as a pop singer. In 1952 he took part in the competition in the trainee at the Bolshoi Theater, was adopted despite the lack of conservatory education, and soon (in the figurative expression of BA Pokrovsky) became a "trump card in the deck of the Bolshoi Theater, a leading soloist with the country's main opera house where she performed in more than 30 parties, among whom - Tatiana in Eugene Onegin and Lisa in The Queen of Spades Tchaikovsky; Kupava The Snow Maiden by Rimsky-Korsakov, Donna Anna in "The Stone Guest A. Dargomyzhsky; Aida in the opera of Giuseppe Verdi (in this party in 1962 made her debut in the theater ", Covent Garden, London, appeared at the Metropolitan Opera, New York)," Tosca "and" Madame Butterfly by Puccini.

Vishnevskaya has a unique voice! What proves its relevance throughout her career! Inappropriate comparison, in my opinion!

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she sang in the church choir, a bar, karaoke,
This is what singing lesson??



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Tana,
talents, uncomplicated by my count, half a million people. And the producers - maybe a hundred. High - a thousand. Hence the small selection of what we listen. And it was always. I'm afraid - will be. Is that the Internet as a tool for self-help

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And as to what to listen - even a very important point: where to listen.
I've traveled with his little daughter from Moscow to Lisbon by car. Five times listened to her CDs, which are called "333 (!) Children's songs." When she slept, listened to his, or radio. From Presley to "Viagra", from classical to pop. I normally listen
Although the concert of the same "Viagra" I would probably not have gone. But I would not willingly and 333 children's songs to listen to ...



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Старый 02.06.2009, 12:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #65
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Tana,
talents, uncomplicated by my count, half a million people. And the producers - maybe a hundred. High - a thousand.
"... and sweet cakes are always short at all ..."
Bulat Okudzhava



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Старый 02.06.2009, 17:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #66
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When Galina Vishnevskaya was normal! You about this woman: Given the nature of the raised voice, in 1944 entered the Leningrad regional theater of operetta in the chorus, and then began to perform solo parts! From 1951 to 1952, stepping down from the Operetta Theater, Vishnevskaya took singing lessons from VN Garin, alternating classes, classical vocals with performances as a pop singer. In 1952 he took part in the competition in the trainee at the Bolshoi Theater, was adopted despite the lack of conservatory education, and soon (in the figurative expression of BA Pokrovsky) became a "trump card in the deck of the Bolshoi Theater, a leading soloist with the country's main opera house where she performed in more than 30 parties, among whom - Tatiana in Eugene Onegin and Lisa in The Queen of Spades Tchaikovsky; Kupava The Snow Maiden by Rimsky-Korsakov, Donna Anna in "The Stone Guest A. Dargomyzhsky; Aida in the opera of Giuseppe Verdi (in this party in 1962 made her debut in the theater ", Covent Garden, London, appeared at the Metropolitan Opera, New York)," Tosca "and" Madame Butterfly by Puccini.

Vishnevskaya has a unique voice! What proves its relevance throughout her career! Inappropriate comparison, in my opinion!
Yes, all this was later, and before that, you may not know, Galina Vishnevskaya, was raised in an orphanage, abandoned by her parents, so that life begins not sweet, but rather sad and pathetic.
Natasha Vodianova, selling fruit on the market, poor family, but now, well, what is not the story of "Cinderella"?
eva777 like you to explain what you mean by "winners uboginkie, with a sad fate, if the winners, it is no" ubogonkie.

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Originally Posted by Tana
she sang in the church choir, a bar, karaoke,



It is that lesson vocal ???
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It could have somewhere to sing, even in amateur theater, even in church, at least in the restaurant ...
No: After high school she was hired at the sole of her life work - a cook trainee at West Lothian College, where she worked for six months. From time to time she visited the theater to listen to professional singers. (c)
In my opinion, she did too little for his 48 years (she was born on April 1, the 61-second) for his promotion, I think its more of a "found", "dragged" out of nothingness ...
Yet most of us, "meets a man of clothes"



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Старый 02.06.2009, 17:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #67
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you may not know, Galina Vishnevskaya, was brought up in an orphanage, abandoned by her parents, so that life began not sweet, but rather sad and pathetic
Tana, not quite. More precisely, it is not so. The orphanage she was not a single day. Brought up by her grandmother, mother, father, and another uncle, brother, father (Andrew, I think), still did not old man, who died in the siege. Not for us to judge her parents if she does not judge them. Father in her life brought an awful lot of grief, is not every woman is stand. She survived the Leningrad blockade, in 15-16 years to clean corpses in the streets.
Her voice was the "right" is really by nature, but also studied it very much. Actually, for a long time can tell, this is a great singer and a great woman. The greatest professional. And for what it now has, it has paid too high a price, and paid herself. So the comparison with the talent show from the people at least inappropriate, is not it?



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Старый 02.06.2009, 18:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #68
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Tana, not quite. More precisely, it is not so. The orphanage she was not a single day. Brought up by her grandmother, mother, father, and another uncle, brother, father (Andrew, I think), still did not old man, who died in the siege. Not for us to judge her parents if she does not judge them. Father in her life brought an awful lot of grief, is not every woman is stand. She survived the Leningrad blockade, in 15-16 years to clean corpses in the streets.
Her voice was the "right" is really by nature, but also studied it very much. Actually, for a long time can tell, this is a great singer and a great woman. The greatest professional. And for what it now has, it has paid too high a price, and paid herself. So the comparison with the talent show from the people at least inappropriate, is not it?
Allena,
I led Vishnevskaya as an example only because the fate of it was really difficult, sad, especially childhood (she rarely mention it), but now nobody remembers this, now she's the greatest professional, I'm not comparing talent show, but again it is in the post eva777, namely farzu: "Why then, usually, the winners uboginkie, with a sad fate, etc."



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Старый 02.06.2009, 18:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #69
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Might not understand, and Vishnevskaya here how sideways?
As an example of a native not of high society, "from simple"?
So she was born in the USSR in the 26 th year, which they then society was?
Lord all in Paris! (c)
And you, Tana, Fedor remember:
   was born in Kazan in a poor farmer's family from the village Syrtsova Vyatka province Ivan Yakovlevich Chaliapin. Mother - Evdokia (Avdotya) Mikhailovna (nee Prozorova) was born in the village Dudinskaya the same province. (c)



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Старый 02.06.2009, 18:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #70
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Cyril Syzransky, Allena I did not like the criticism in this thread, because no one discussed the voice of Susan Bowl, began to discuss the appearance, shape, biography, and earlier than she was engaged in that do and what not done, etc., vobschem usual gossip (who-what-to-what-and-where), so I brought a couple of examples that not all celebrities and talents were born with a silver spoon in his mouth .
Allena, she appeared on the show, because the record studio, where she had previously sent their disks, ignored her, personally, I always happy for these people.



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