Refusal of a living artist from his work

[LCR]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

craftsmen arrested planes and ships for the debts of Russia's government), I think the work you back. For such things must be treated seriously enough, not sure of financial sanctions, where there is someone to look at Russia, but if so, then large veroyatnast that in the future will not be able to buy anything at any major auction, you will not be allowed to participate.

I think you idealize the large number of auctions, unfortunately, the reality is quite sad.

1. I have the most was the problem (actually, it is not allowed): Not so long ago, one person, appropriated 2 works Roginsky, referred them to a rather large auction in England. My English lawyer wrote a letter to the auction house, in which he requested not to exhibit these works for sale and not give them this person to resolve the case. Their lawyer in response to the letter guaranteed that they will do so. I came up for auction, and the chief curator of the house told me not to put them they can not but prior to the sale will make a warning that this work is a dispute, and swore to me that if they do not sell, do not leave it safe. No warning was not done, the work had been sold, but later the buyer learned of the situation and refused to take work. Then, without warning me, they gave their special, which actually stole them. Wonderful image if it is true?
   
2. Today spoke to one another sculptor living in the United States. 15 years ago, after learning that some type pours his work and sells them, he sued and won the case. My friend is worth years of life and quite serious dkneg, but by court caster had to give the sculptor the entire edition and the form and pay damages.
   And what happened? Most recently, he learned that all caster pours (for he and foundry), and then sells - and in the largest auction houses. He spoke with the head of the department of Russian art, which she obhyasnila him that they - as we have under Stalin: internal competition between divisions, each semester they plan increases to comply with it, we must work hard, like some Stakhanov - and refuse items that they bring, they simply can not.
   
3. In my presence, let's say, a very responsible person in one of the auction houses speaks of "Mr. X is not: sick, he never pays back the work for no reason, no longer going to sell him anything." This variable in taste and trudnorasstayuschiysya with his cabbage X is still there to buy anything he wants

[Wladzislaw]

I know quite well the principles of the auctions, etc. Fakes, reservations, money, terrific level of knowledge, etc.

1. You have a legal dispute, it must be brought to court. Also, you can sue the auction, which is logical, but there is nothing, probably not comes off. As you write, actually stole them , probably, to prove that you can not. Therefore - as will be ...

It could be supposed that the auction suggests that if you do not decide the issue in court, you can not prove their claims. Based on the presumption of innocence, he can not suspect deliverer works. Do not return to work to the owner they can not, there is no reason. They contract under which they operate. Retaining the work they receive a lawsuit, which instantly lose, that auction is not completely necessary. Your letter - nothing. To maintain the picture they could only based on the overlay tries to prohibit the court. You need to be initsirovat trial, at the time onogo pictures would have been arrested.

Letter to you, most likely, does not contain anything legally binding, as is common courtesy, because you have the attitude to these works, and should not spoil relations.

2. Court. Man again not easy to get away. Lawsuits to auction houses (I think the claim will be resolved in the pretrial order).

3. It's all very clear. Auction want to receive money. If the customer money, then ...

- How do I know that the visitor is not in his mind?
- It's time to finally understand that the world-famous resort on the sane people do not hold out!

P.S. As a replica, nevertheless Fund Chagall - a somewhat different level. And the change of counsel.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Zenia

that's sculptures promised ....

Thank you! As my kids say - "cool!"

[color="# 666686"]Posted 1 hour 27 minutes[/color]

Сообщение от LCR

one person, appropriated 2 works ... referred them to a rather large auction in England.

A similar case occurred with the work of OA Vukolova, now living in Paris, when his work is among the five (by fate not returned the artist), was exhibited at the famous Moscow auction. Artist someone informed about this and on his arrival in Moscow, he went straight to the auction house. The painting was removed from the auction (and the organizers are not obliged to explain why), and returned to the author.
Details I do not know, but now returned AUTHOR.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

1. You have a legal dispute, it must be brought to court. Also, you can sue the auction, which is logical, but there is nothing, probably not comes off. As you write, actually stole them , probably, to prove that you can not. Therefore - as will be ...
It could be supposed that the auction suggests that if you do not decide the issue in court, you can not prove their claims. Based on the presumption of innocence, he can not suspect deliverer works. Do not return to work to the owner they can not, there is no reason. They contract under which they operate. Retaining the work they receive a lawsuit, which instantly lose, that auction is not completely necessary. Your letter - nothing. To maintain the picture they could only based on the overlay tries to prohibit the court. You need to be initsirovat trial, at the time onogo pictures would have been arrested.
Letter to you, most likely, does not contain anything legally binding, as is common courtesy, because you have the attitude to these works, and should not spoil relations.

You know, if I could not prove, I would just did not go to the auction house. The evidence I have, now I can not speak about them, because this whole story is not over yet, tell you later.

I wrote "in fact stolen," because there is a difference between "steal" and "assign". Let's just say: the paintings were received for temporary storage, but instead return them by using the fact that the artist is dead, they are trying to pass off as their own - very banal situation, but this case - only when I can prove something.

Apply to the court prior to the sale we have not had time because the court is competent to the residence of the defendant (the auction house, as already mentioned - in England, the defendant - in another European country, I myself - in the third). My lawyer - to which I have absolutely no complaints - the auction house sent a lawyer arguments and written evidence, which he agreed and promised in writing that the work will be delayed pending resolution of the case. Before we give the work the auction house changed its legal counsel.

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

2. Court. Man again not easy to get away.

Many of my friends hudonikov now suing. But the court takes time and money - a lot of time and a lot of money - and for what result? In the case we are again forced to give foundry castings 1.2, and then resumes ...

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от LCR

trudnorasstayuschiysya with his cabbageX

Filter bazaar, dear LCR, some forum users may not understand the jargon of 60-70-x, which means "money".

[color="# 666686"]Added after 7 minutes[/color]

Сообщение от LCR

, and for what result? In the case we are again forced to give foundry castings 1.2, and then resumes its work ...

In this case you need to do "on the concepts, namely the appeal to brothers, they quickly learn foundry to be" peasant ".

[LCR]

Сообщение от dedulya37

Filter bazaar, dear LCR, some forum users may not understand the jargon of 60-70-x, which means "money".

They are involved in antiques - hence must know

Сообщение от dedulya37

In this case you need to do "on the concepts, namely the appeal to brothers, they quickly learn foundry to be" peasant ".

As for "Bratkov" idea, of course, the rich, but how to cross the threshold? Must decide (this Vysotsky, no, "beat the man on the face, I just can not?" Although, of course, no person there, and there is no trace, instead of him - podlyuschaya mug). We ought to think of some more humane, but still effective method - something like "gang with a human face", since we're talking about faces: p

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от dedulya37

The report from LCR
and for what result? In the case we are again forced to give foundry castings 1.2, and then resumes ...

In this case you need to do "on the concepts, namely the appeal to brothers, they quickly learn foundry to be" peasant ".

In principle, bad recommendation. Especially not on an extreme life event. LCR, do not listen The more that simply disseminate information to the business shrank. It thrives because of all confer: unknown sculptor Mr. (pun out?) M man, the speculator's and etc. It would be named with names, facts and photos - all would be easier.

[fross]

We ought to think of some more humane, but still effective method - something like "gang with a human face", since we are talking about persons

Awful do not like any injustice, a sense of helplessness and inefficiency of the judicial system, and physical abuse repugnant.
Can make a recantation letter on behalf of this lady and send it to auction houses? Main properly all articulate what would she go there again stated they have decided what to call the medics.
But to really think through the effective protection should be familiar with the habits and vulnerabilities opponent.

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от fross

is not terribly fond of any injustice, a sense of helplessness and inefficiency of the judicial system, and physical abuse repugnant.

Good to be with his fists: D

[fross]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

Good to be with his fists: D

  And with a machine gun Maxim? Already passed.