Can a fake without a market?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от mihailovoh

AlexanderG,
 The logic veschey.vinovaty zakonodateli.tk. is an ordinary fraud and mass distribution was still in the early 20th veka.a now become a business fraud.
A first person (or yourself if hudozhnik.diller collector ...) conceiving adventure with forgery.
Blame eksperty.ne suggest principles for the unique skills and rules examination.
Dealers have information about the doubts and did not put this to the buyer.
The artist performs under the order ..... did not put their signatures or put not his.
To blame the collector is hardly possible, we are all a little crazy and willing to hope for a miracle and end up postradavshimi.Nelzya blame the sponsors for their populyarnost.tk.s one hand, this recognition of their talanta.a with other damage to their imedzhu to the future.

The point is that buying a fake pay as per podlennik, and when sold and deception are rasskryvaetsya-fig. Collector dplzhen deal and a thousand times to check before you pay, but nothing to complain about buying a fake-it-yourself fool. Is the essence.
Who what where and where the signature is or not is the armistice. Talking about the hundreds of thousands and even millions of $.

[AlexanderG]

Caveat emptor

Buyer beware.

Pokupatel ', bud' vnimatelen.

[mihailovoh]

Seriy,
The Law on the Protection of Human potrebitelya.est rules of sale of goods and ideas of any seller must issue a check and dokument.tovarny td.i responsible for the accuracy of svedeniy.Ne long time. Speaking of Gelos. * reasoning about it for signature attributed ** ** ** on the conclusion? * and td.i mn. In such a case. responsibility for the authenticity of the risk-purchased. is specified pokupatel.Esli avtor.znachit seller. uniquely. Similarly, the artist put not his signature must be held accountable. A Madame pravilno.snimaya comes with a otvetstvennost.ni who can not prohibit writing style .... Ideally. Always must be.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Is it possible to fake without a market?

While the picture does not become a commodity (not occurred commodity-money relations) did not happen and the market. Once there was a desire to make a copy of someone's work with the desire to give her podlennik - about any moral principles can not speak. This is a forgery and, consequently, crime.
Tell me, what distinguishes the exact execution of state bank notes by the artist from the exact "replay" the artist's paintings. And even then - a fake. And the difference is that in the first case itself will protect the state and the second - no one! ... And the deadline will be ... any deadline.
And I would like to say that no self-respecting artist would not defile himself fakes. Having a copy of it on the back side (preferably on the front, if it does not order any of the museum) to write: A copy of a painting by such and such, by such and such ... year, the signature

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Buscador

While the picture does not become a commodity (not occurred commodity-money relations) did not happen and the market.

Soglasen.

Once there was a desire to make a copy of someone's work with the desire to give her podlennik - about any moral principles can not speak. This is a forgery and, consequently, crime.

Poves'te u sebia na stene, vydavaite za podlinnik, i eto ne budet prestupleniem.


Tell me, what distinguishes the exact execution of state bank notes by the artist from the exact "replay" the artist's paintings. And even then - a fake. And the difference is that in the first case itself will protect the state and the second - no one! ... And the deadline will be ... any deadline.

Kopii kartin ispol'zuiutsia muzeiami, galereiami i pr.

Za banknotu, daze esli sdelaete dlia sebia, popadiote v razriad prestupnikov.

Eschio odno otlichie banknota $ 100 = $ 100, te poddelka ne prevyshaet nominal'noi stoimosti.

Poddel'naia kartina mozet prinesti bolee znachitel'nyi dohod.

And I would like to say that no self-respecting artist would not defile himself fakes. Having a copy of it on the back side (preferably on the front, if it does not order any of the museum) to write: A copy of a painting by such and such, by such and such ..., year, signature

Chellini (esli ne oshibaius') poddelyval antiquities, spisok drugih uvazaiuschih sebia hudoznikov ia privodil vyshe. Ego mozno prodolzit '.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Pavel

Who what where and where the signature is or not is the armistice. Talking about the hundreds of thousands and even millions of $.

Talking about morality and legality, and you again about his millions ...

[AlexanderG]

Voobsche-to razgovor ne o morali, ao vzaimosviazi rynok-poddelki.

Сообщение от Buscador

talk about morality

Samoubiistvo dlia hristian - greh, a dlia samuraia - dolg chesti.

Govoria o morali, hotelos 'by znat' ch'ei. Morali ze sovsem raznye byvaiut.

and legality

Mnogoe iz togo, chto vy perechislili zakonom ne zaprescheno, a sledovatel'no mozet byt 'sdelano.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

For someone and speculation (to buy cheaper, sell more expensive) is immoral.
A Christian church has always condemned usury and lending money at interest is not the work of pious and sinful. As, however, and in Islam.
Banks close? Loans banned?

[Pavel]

A copy of it, copy. A copy can make any or even an artist. A copy can be made to order. Any artist. to examine the method of the artist. he likes, usually makes a copy. There is such a thing, to be under the influence and work in the style of someone else. It is bad only with the creative side. Stylize-sign bad artist.
In general, if ktoto wants to learn how to distinguish counterfeit or find great artists on the internet is a very funny !<! - ~ 7 ~--> Funny policies.
This is a lot of work.

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Сообщение от Buscador

conversation about morality and legality, and you are again on their million ...

Fraud and wages expressed in money, however you can give your raboty.Ili you do not understand what are talking about. Thief going into someone else's apartment takes dengue and from his point of sp he was right. Poddelschik takes the money of another artist. The conversation is still about money. Morality is how the money was received.

[Seriy]

Fed, if the second depicts Picasso's work, I plakal ... Kindergarten. Picasso wrote to the specific guitar, mandolin, busts, which he had. And the color is not his, and not brush it ... kind of soap. Of course, the artist can write in the style so that no differences, but ...! A good artist! To Degas pastel drawing, you need to understand what's what. To Van Gogh's own brush, as he, and this from morning to night that led to the canvas with a brush. Fakes Vermeer ridiculous quality ..

I would also like to see moddelki Manet and Monet - our academics, and folk artists to their level do not have lasted, even though all his life trying, and there a young man yesterday who took brush in hand and writes vodoemulsionkoy.