Reflections

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NATA NOVA, the administration of many deletes the message.
They know better by the quality of their content.
Participants in the discussions often behind the curve, administrative must weed out these messages. Or respond to the complaint.
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Yes, and do not really so jealous of his "literary work" ...

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Сообщение от gans

Dear Authority, I think it's time to decide (or at least think) that, for anyone at all sites and forums ARTinvestment.RU.
Just want to say that this text is purely analytical, and I ask him not to be offended.

Perhaps you feel it is a trifle, but I think this apparent trend. The forum is extremely reduced the level of discussion.

    Dear gans, absolutely agree with you in the formulation of the problem. Moreover, I am constantly talking about the same, ie as the information content of the forum. Diagnosed you for sure! But I would like to elaborate on the reasons that form the situation.
      What is a Forum? Forum - a message that participants create together. From this it follows that the quality of the text is determined by the competence of those people who write on this forum. In other words, at a trade forum, as ARTinvestment.RU, must be present professionals in the arts: art critics, curators, artdilery, artists and people in general, due to their professional needs of dealing with the art or artrynkom. This does not mean that those who are not included in this circle should not be in the space of the forum. I just want to say that the forum should be present a significant percentage of professionals. No need to make them the overwhelming majority, but nevertheless they should be much more than now. People who are not professionally interested in art, must be present at the forum. But it must lead specialists.
      You see, it is impossible to explain that to generate years of practice. But I can tell you that this experience, for example, gives me the opportunity to see who is who on the forum. Who really professionals, but who only wants to appear as such. I say this not for self-praise, but for a better understanding of my position. How can I best explain? The fact is that the fans simply throw dust in his eyes, he looks at some general highlights, losing sight of the details. Thus, the forum creates a blissful atmosphere of vanity and militant amateurism. Naturally, self-respecting professionals feel this false and do not stay in this space. I assure you that at least fifteen men from Moscow and St. Petersburg professionals artrynka, attended the forum at my request, did not find anything for myself that it would be interesting to them. (And this is just my friends.) And how many people came and soon leave forum, although it was clear that people do not accidentally wandered in here. Note also for those who kept aloof, not taking part in the flood, not responding to the outspoken political provocation and ignoring the arrogant rudeness some forumchan. The manner of conducting separate discussions of the forum just can not bring self-sufficient and self-respecting people. Obviously, that creates an atmosphere which is abhorrent to the formation of professional debate, and it is this and only this can bring in specialists to participate in the forum. And if you will be involved in professional practitioners, then the rest will be interesting and useful.
      P.S. If someone thinks that I myself am the creator of the problems about which I write, I beg you not to be unfounded, and argue his point of view, links to related posts. Thanks in advance for constructive.

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I think no need to change anything, a very good forum, I received a personal message that can not be about politics, why? I am interested to talk about politike.Mne very uninteresting to many of the themes, I did not read. Talking about politics, I am on the forum, and when there is an interesting topic for me, I naturally switching there, so that all threads are good, but we would be bored if it becomes purely a professional forum, there remain very few people. Topic of interest to me, you may be once a month, and what I do, I almost can not live without this forum, I am little interested in Western art, and that I should leave, and other topics as though I was resting, and waiting, or when I or someone will one day be news about my topic. I am not excellent job, and not a specialist, if a specialist, it is very narrow, so I personally do not like, that would change something.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

What is a Forum? Forum - a message that participants create together

remarks, I would add. I agree not with all parties, but is confident that everyone should have the right to speak, regardless of whether anyone likes it or not. I may be wrong, and often it happens, but it does not affect, I too often disappointed in those words, freedom for which they wanted. But if there is a contrary view, then we go back to the very strrashnomu ...

And today I wrote a letter to the Administrator, if you do not get a reply, publish, somewhere close to the "fallen Tyudchevym Only Tyudchevu should not fall, standing arguments poodyskivat ... We still want to bet!

[fross]

Gans correctly outlined the problem of the forum - a departure from the main theme of the forum in small talk about everything and anything. And why this is happening does not make sense to find out, and so everything is clear - rest not to work. Yes and no to anything wrong, simply must be a balance - a natural balance. Feel someone that few serious issues - write.
Tiutchev very important point made - a forum for professionals not interested. It's bad for the quality of filling the forum and the main thing they will not come until they are interesting. We must think of something to attract them.

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Сообщение от Samvel

I think no need to change anything, a very good forum, I received a personal message that can not be about politics, why? I am interested to talk about politike.Mne very uninteresting to many of the themes, I did not read. Talking about politics, I am on the forum, and when there is an interesting topic for me, I naturally switching there, so that all threads are good, but we would be bored if it becomes purely a professional forum, there remain very few people. Topic of interest to me, you may be once a month, and what I do, I almost can not live without this forum, I am little interested in Western art, and that I should leave, and other topics as though I was resting, and waiting, or when I or someone will one day be news about my topic. I am not excellent job, and not a specialist, if a specialist, it is very narrow, so I personally do not like, what would you change.

       Camvel, if your post - the answer to my, let advise you to read it again. I'm just saying that the forum should be different people. But! Must be present professionals in the field of art. Without their presence, do not get a serious discussion and attention on a switch imaginary authorities, who "understand all" and at the same time in politics. By the way, about politics. I am also interested in an exchange of views in this area. But political debates are used by some for provocation and self-affirmation through the humiliation of others. Perhaps there are other, more practical goal. For example, earning "green card". You see, everything comes down again in the internal culture of rights.
      I really want to talk about politics, history, literature, cinema, philosophy, etc. etc., but without rudeness and boasting, as it is accepted in society, decent people. The administration of a forum, in my opinion, it should provide a level of communication, but without bias. And it turns out, someone Nakhamu, nafludit and banyat all as a kindergarten!

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Сообщение от fross

Tjutchev very important point made - a forum for professionals not interested. It's bad for the quality of filling the forum and the main thing they will not come until they are interesting. We must think of something to attract them.

Maybe not interesting until later it will be interesting and relevant. Many professionals have their own blogs on the expanses of the Internet and prefer to gather people around him, and not to connect to someone. There are people who do not reach the forum, read the information directly from the site, but no time to debate.
Each different purposes.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

Camvel, if your post - the answer to my, let advise you to read it again

No, it was just a thought.

[fross]

Maybe try to attract their attention to making the forum a vote-reytinki events? Extend the theme of photographic and give a summary of the evaluation of eg five-point scale, indicating the main pluses and minuses. Usually, there's no information about the success of the exhibition there, as there is no tool for collecting and processing of private opinions.

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Сообщение от Maroussia

And today I wrote a letter to the Administrator, if you do not get a reply, publish, somewhere close to the "fallen Tyudchevym Only Tyudchevu should not fall, standing arguments poodyskivat ... We still want to bet!

     The sad Demon, the spirit of exile,
He flew over the sinful earth,
And the best days of memories
Before him a dense crowd;
Tex-day, when the dwelling of light
Shine it, pure cherub
When traveling comet
Kindly smile of greeting
She liked to change places with him,
When, through the eternal fogs
Poznan greedy, he watched
Nomadic Caravans
In the space abandoned by the stars;
When he believed in and loved,
Happy firstborn of creation!
I did not know nor anger, nor doubt.
I did not threaten his mind
Ages of fruitless series of dismal ...
And much, much ... and all
Remember, he had no power!

(c)