Fakes Russian Avant-Garde

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

Logically, Russia does not understand
No yardstick to measure:
She has a special --
In Russia one can only believe.

Now would Feta invite to the forum - and order!: D

[artcol]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

For sure You're right, but why, then, the ranks of those "clever gate" so scanty? So all the same and there is some component (and perhaps not one) which makes this market an elitist? Agree that in order to buy the dried paint and stained canvases (and in fact this is what the dealer buys if you do not keep in mind that what is shown), and believe that this money will have to be either a lunatic or a good understanding of what you do. I'm not talking about love of art is so vague. Unfortunately, your error is very popular. There is even a view that the right approach can spin any artist. I assure you that to do so and has repeatedly tried, but goes bust. You probably have the attitude to business in the classic sense of the word, but believe me, do not work schemes, if they simply move on artrynok. Always need something more something that scares and stops the fans easy money. Now for that "something else" probably, and pay "the remaining 99-Th. You can understand, because as it is necessary to explain the inexplicable (this is quite natural). Although what you say can be attributed to artrynku but perhaps not always and not to all the participants. Especially your statements are true to the market of contemporary art. They just can effectively apply these techniques (though time goes by and the hour of truth). But try to gather all Levitanov and become a monopoly and why others must necessarily share your opinion about this artist? Can say so speculative art market in some of its segments. You're right, but only partly .

There is no point to argue - we're talking about various things. My post was born on the theme of Topeka, and should be seen in its Context, and not at all. I talked about the nature of art-business, and drew away the cause of it so many different scams, frauds.
Certainly there are no speculative segment thereof, arising from manufacture of works of art, whose essence is to SUPPORT the artist and the arts.
If the art market there - then it's someone you need And the art dealers perform useful functions, and the high income they receive, as they work to be high investment vehicles, and much, much more. But the nature of the art market does not change.

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от artcol

I talked about the nature of art-business, and drew away the cause of it so many different scams, frauds

In the banking, insurance and trading business scam much more.
We need to understand what is meant by the term "speculative" in artbiznese. Gains of 500%? Naturally, this is not speculation. Active PR a little-known artist, and then selling his paintings at high prices? Also anything speculative.
Speculation (from the Latin. Speculatio - vysmatrivanie, tracking) - buying and then selling all kinds of goods in order to obtain quick and easy profits. And it is quick and easy. 500%for an hour or two did not earn it.
So fast and so more easily in artbiznese nothing. Perhaps unfortunately.

[artcol]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

In the banking, insurance and trading business scam much more.
We need to understand what is meant by the term "speculative" in artbiznese. Gains of 500%? Naturally, this is not speculation. Active PR a little-known artist, and then selling his paintings at high prices? Also anything speculative.
Speculation (from the Latin. Speculatio - vysmatrivanie, tracking) - buying and then selling all kinds of goods in order to obtain quick and easy profits. And it is quick and easy. 500%for an hour or two did not earn it.
So fast and so more easily in artbiznese nothing. Perhaps unfortunately.

S. called the sales transaction, committed to a specific genus of goods or securities, in order to benefit from the difference between the purchase and selling price. Strictly speaking, any trade deal, what would have been its object, based on the same desire to get a profit on the difference in price, because no trader is buying goods for their own and do not need to sell at higher prices. The difference, however, between ordinary commercial transaction and SA lies in the fact that the first difference in prices is the expected value of more or less certain, normal, driven by common desire for business profits, the same S. embodies an element of risk - it is in to obtain profits of emergency, leaving the number of ordinary, concluded in a yet to the same extraordinary loss. To a certain extent can be considered speculators and producers, abstaining from the sale of their products before the best prices on the market, or a land owner who received land inheritance and limited to the period of low benefit from it, in hopes of selling it in the future at a high price. This type of MS, however, is unilateral, the speculative element inherent in only the next act - the sale, but prior to the act - buying - free of him, whereas in the present SA both the speculative nature of the act are: the purchase is made with a view to selling on higher price, or sale is made in hopes to cover its purchase at the lowest price.

http://www.wikiznanie.ru/ru-wz/index.php/Спекуляция

What is the point to argue with me? Argue with the theoreticians of political economy: D
I only use them to determine: D

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от artcol

I just use their definition

Definitions theoretical approach to speculation than to the art market. Be one-sided speculation and present - to abstain from certain sales of works of the artist "until the best prices on the market." But I think the whole art market nespekulyativen.

[artcol]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

But I think the whole art market nespekulyativen.

  100: D

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от dedulya37

Now would Feta invited to the forum - and order!: D

  Can and feta, just not Demian Poor! : D

[artcol]

Prigov invited to, but he died: (outside his memory

[Meister]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

But I think the whole art market nespekulyativen

and still very philanthropist ))))))))

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Meister

and yet extremely philanthropist ))))))))

Of course not speculative! In the classic sense of the term "speculation". Quickly bought cheaply, quickly and easily sold fervor. Other concepts of making money and can fit in artrynku, but not speculation.