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Старый 21.07.2009, 17:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #51
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tell me, please, the meaning formalin "works" Hirst. What does "physical impossibility of death in the minds of living"?
This is very powerful development topics impermanence of life and the inevitability of joining the majority - that is an eternal theme, which appealed to artists from the Middle Ages. Attempt to touch the feeling of death, which is not given to know the living person. An attempt to knowingly doomed because of this sense of incomprehensibility. This is just one thought. And the metaphors in the work much more. Are there not least the fact that we face an archaic ruthless murder weapon, located in a very helpless situation? Alive, for sure, makes an unforgettable impression. And this is quite at the level of feelings, with the most powerful, the mind can turn then to get rid of the surging thoughts. I would like this thing in Moscow to see.



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Старый 21.07.2009, 17:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #52
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Someone tell the Herstu.Dumayu, he himself did not suspect.
Suspects. He has long been immersed in Mexican culture - where such things are historical reflexes with reverence and solemnly and soberly.



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Старый 21.07.2009, 17:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #53
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Vladimir, completeness! Hearst-chic financially art and media project Saatchi, and a mental component, and you can lead a canned feces (sorry)



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Старый 21.07.2009, 19:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #54
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and that you are now a warrior?
I am now a regular.

I just think that "advanced" does not depend on love kontemporari.
A person may well choose a different direction of art, and when it is to be as remote from the "lining" in the kitchen.



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Старый 21.07.2009, 19:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #55
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I want to ask forumcanam question. A couple of weeks ago, talked with Russia's most renowned gallerist (Artmanezhi, Art-Moscow, Paris, Basel, etc.). In short, as they say my children, "the advanced person.
So, he believes that contemporary art can not exist apart from his explanation. Ie it should already include an explanation.
To understand the absurdity, to say the least, such "reasoning" of the "brow" enough to imagine Jack Pollock Sprayers with a bottle of Jack Daniels in one hand and a fountain pen in the other!



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Старый 21.07.2009, 19:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #56
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Vladimir,
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I would like this thing in Moscow to see.
Come to Kiev! she is still with us



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Старый 21.07.2009, 21:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #57
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It has long been immersed in Mexican culture - where such things are historical reflexes with reverence and solemnly and soberly.
Imagine: living in the light of a shark-perfect, and the oldest creature on earth, gracefully surf the world's oceans, inspiring awe of its inhabitants, and people respect and admiration from sozertsaniya.I suddenly, is greedy confusion, which kills a wonderful creation, resells his naformalinenny corpse artist, then history izvestna.Itog-dough X PR=BABLO.Vopros, ladies and gentlemen! sows whether this acted reasonably, ext ROE, eternal? And can (ethically) starts a conversation about life and death on the basis of such perverted? : mad:



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Старый 21.07.2009, 21:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #58
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Renoir: "Today people want to explain everything. But if you can explain the picture, so it is not art. What two qualities, in my opinion, distinguish the work of art? Its impossible to describe or repeat ... ".
Art - this is not charade. Maybe someone intelligent and interesting to solve puzzles and search for hidden meaning, but art is not designed to do this. The artist is not interested. But the buyer - is another matter. Everyone wants to know why he rolled his personal money.

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Paul Valéry: "Literature has become all-powerful and has the right to create and destroy reputations. Evaluation of paintings (at a time) depends on the talent of a writer who praises to the skies, or destroy it. There is not a formless things a colored nonsense and random distortions to which descriptions and explanations, it was impossible to draw the attention of the public and even to make her admire, based on the propensity of people to feedback (a fact proven twenty times in the 19 century), under which the product, misunderstood and derided at first, classifies and then to the masterpieces, and its initial price increases a thousand times.
      Thus, the painting was an unfortunate victim of a rapid and powerful policy tools and the Exchange.
      We have acquired the habit of amusing take a mediocre artist, if at the beginning of his work, he was not shocked by the public and not suffered from it enough insults and ridicule.
Togo, who have not shocking, and not have to shrug their shoulders, we simply do not notice. It concluded that the need to shock, and many devote their time and effort.
      A good study of contemporary art would have to show how over the past 50 or 75 years, every five years, found a new solution to the problem of shock.
I see all this dangerous superficiality, and I find that the concept of art is less and less connected with the concept of the fullest development of a specific individual, and consequently, other personalities.
Degas the writer says: "Leave me alone! You have come to count shirts in my wardrobe? "-" No, monsieur, for the sake of your art, I try to tell about it ".-" My art! What are you going to tell? You are able to explain the picture of dignity to those who had never seen her? A? I can find the most faithful, most accurate words to explain what I want. I talked about art with the wisest men, and they do not understand! ... Those who understand the words are not needed. You say, "Hmm ..." or "O" - and this says it all. That is my opinion ... I think literature only hinders artists. You infects the artist's vanity, you are instilling in him a love for vanity, and it is - everything. You are not in the least to improve the public taste ... Despite your writing, it has never been so low as now. Is it not? You do not even help us sell our paintings. A man buys a painting, not because I read an article in the newspaper, but because his friend, who, in his opinion, something understood in the art would say that this movie in ten years will cost twice as much now ... .



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Старый 22.07.2009, 00:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #59
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I think the literature only hinders artists. You infects the artist's vanity, you are instilling in him a love for vanity, and it is - everything. You are not in the least to improve the public taste ... Despite your writing, it has never been so low as now. Is it not? You do not even help us sell our paintings. A man buys a painting, not because I read an article in the newspaper, but because his friend, who, in his opinion, something understood in the art would say that this movie in ten years will cost twice as much now ... .
Degas just rude to the unhappy writer. Artists and then were able to puff. And then, what this series of names? Renoir, Degas ... Edification descendants? They knew something about the present life? This is the same as Alexander Benois ask about the actual art ... this would have been listening
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And suddenly, is greedy confusion, which kills a wonderful creation, resells it naformalinenny corpse artist, then history is known.
Exactly. How did we forget to Yaya draw attention to the form? There is no doubt that Hirst would be 1000 times easier to implement this idea on canvas or in a cast-bronze. Make it on a pedestal height of twenty yards! Or write, for example, that a shark on a large scale - panel meters for six! Well, he-he figure, of course, does not possess (according to many forumchan), so that would attract local "Negro art" - not the essence. Instead, he, the scoundrel, started some unbelievable racket - book in Australia carcass, transport, prepare a dummy, tank ... Yes, and without guarantees: the case of something new, the technology is not proven. And all why? Perhaps in order to achieve maximum realism? No, of course. All just because of money, PR and desire to make fun of the corpse of a relic .... Well, what kind of conversation?
A realistic meanwhile achieved unprecedented - virtually eliminates the barrier between the product and the spectator. This barrier was thinner glass of the tank. The artist has achieved maximum involvement, catching a string of primitive dread of this Makhinov. To the spectator belly felt that before him is not an imitation. With a painting, or sculpture should never have been to create such an effect of animal excitement. It's one thing to look at the film footage from a helicopter, but quite another to actually look down from the observation deck skyscraper. And in fact worked for 100%. Actually such bold actions of artists and include them in the history of art.



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Vladimir pulled my words konteksta.Ya you about morality, but you mean tehnologiyu.Ponimayu, transmit their ideas through the innocent victims sharks, very sovremenno.Makdonalds, Coca-Sola, GMO, the corpses in museums .. . let all the flies in the tar-blank



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