P.Konchalovsky the picture. Assist in the evaluation.

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev, 2337701

And really, who is this mysterious "Irina"?

Zagadoshnaya "Irina" - is Gerashchenko. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> A very knowledgeable and sought after expert.
(star sign - Cat and Sagittarius).

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Сообщение от Amateur , 2337661

And the work is, in my opinion - is normal .

That's right!
Absolutely normal .
Konchalovsky Foundation ultimatum - that without the consent of all P.Konchalovsky valid - this is a strong move. >
 And its certificate Foundation offers money comparable to the cost of painting >

 And this thing is purchased long before the Fund Konchalovsky , so expert advice experts give THG,
 (probably no less authoritative than I.Geraschenko ) and hardly any sense " pereattestovyvatsya ."

The act placed here , believing that Pablo, questioning the authorship , can actually say something sensible about the presented work , and offer some arguments.
Alas , it came down , " I do not like it, then do not Konchalovsky ."

 Well, I do not like " yellow to green " M.Rotko , so what? Authorship Rothko dare not deny . TC. aware of his incompetence. >

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redbor, but all of it passing.
And it certainly will.
Time-it is!
>

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev

I, for example , in the work of AUC understand better than any " Irina ."
And not only them.

Brings to mind the children's Ilya Muromets anecdote that made the ass for dragon cave in the mountain, where he was hiding and trying to call it cries out to fight to the death . >

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Сообщение от redbor; 2338481"

Ultimatum Konchalovsky Foundation - that without the consent of all P.Konchalovsky valid - this is a strong move.
And its certificate Foundation offers money comparable to the cost of painting

And this thing is purchased long before the Fund Konchalovsky, so expert advice experts give THG,
(Probably no less authoritative than I.Geraschenko) and hardly any sense "pereattestovyvatsya."

For a similar "ultimatum" did not hear anything.
Certificates of its funds, as far as I know, no "offers". How do you see it: there are people at the crossroads of three roads, and a hoarse voice beckoning: "But to whom a certificate of authenticity on Konchalovsky's"?
The Fund has (someone likes it or not) the most complete archive and substantial technological base, allowing give 100%guarantee of authenticity. That at current prices of PP Konchalovsky very, very important.
Ask to note: I am not serving in the Fund. No (either directly or indirectly) to do with it I have. Moreover: serious studying creativity PP Konchalovsky also never worked. (As, indeed, the vast majority expressed here are their views on to, your picture).
I am afraid that after such discussions among some converts may be a misapprehension about the essence of expertise. Znatochestvo is certainly one of the most important components of the examination. But, alas, not the only one. Otherwise, for each subsequent directory of any museum collection have been published so many science-based PEREATRIBUTSY.
 And a couple - three phrases about the "re-evaluation".
Remembered exhibition of paintings from the collection of I.V.Vozyakova. (The one that took place this summer in the House icon). So, there was not a single (!) Pattern, which experts in the literal sense, not "pereattestovali" would. Completely refuted by their own conclusion is issued for 15 years before ... ("And where the Pole was - there tropics, where New York - Nakhichevan ...").
These pairs of opinions, with the knowledge the experts themselves were displayed directly under the tracks. And this, unfortunately, is not the first and not the last. It was, is and will be, alas. (As with any real medical practitioner has his own little cemetery)

However, why not remember the youth, not to play "guessing"? MSU, the first course. First semester. Description and analysis. (If the second semester will be - younger comrades correct me).
But in general, the treatise - not my size. I long to write - boring. Man I'm easy (in all respects) and hilarious. And then - some nostalgia, and incomprehensible to me merrymaking. As noted by Shan (crossed out) - "protracted."
Good luck! Comment will not. All embrace. Anyone not angry.

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Сообщение от redbor; 2338481"

Ultimatum Konchalovsky Foundation - that without the consent of all P.Konchalovsky valid - this is a strong move. >

Quote from February 2009 , is now in place "Tretyakov", I think , should read " NINE them. Tretyakov ", but the concept is , in my opinion, correct:

Сообщение от uriart; 223485"

It is not necessary to obtain the expertise of the fund.
Tretyakov Gallery will give you the expertise and signed by Ermakova Gladkova .
And it is perfectly normal !
Ermakova and considered an expert in the fund, but that does not mean that it is forbidden to give expertise from the Tretyakov Gallery in which it operates.
After Tretyakov still gives expertise.
My friends have done so , have expertise in the Tretyakov Gallery. And when I called them today to Moscow and asked what I was told , but why get in the fund, if the same Ermakova and sign in the fund and the Tretyakov Gallery .

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2339311"

For a similar "ultimatum" did not hear anything

Sorry, figuratively. Probably not very good. But the Foundation has always stressed. that only his certification can guarantee the authenticity of P.Konchalovsky. As far as I know - there is technological expertise is carried out by and on the basis of Art Consulting, and for art-drawn I.Geraschenko addition, the same experts GRC and THG? And the cost of services comes to 250 tys.r.
 

Сообщение от Dilettante, 2339311"

there was not a single (!) Pattern, which experts in the literal sense, not "pereattestovali" would. Completely refuted by their own conclusion is issued for 15 years before ... ("And where the Pole was - there tropics, where New York - Nakhichevan ...").

In!
  "... And we are people and not Bobby, they do not care!" >

 > I also had to be renewed several times zkspertiz acts. Therefore, the serious stuff - I try. that was 2-3 from different places.
  Well here - examination carried out in TG before the formation NINE them. Tretyakov and Konchalovsky Foundation, and although no one thing is beyond doubt, to the same catalog, and is known for exhibitions, there is always a "disgruntled" <- 10 ~ ->
Amateur, do you think, the experts of the Foundation conjuncture, to some extent?
After all, if I understand correctly, the Foundation created the brothers Konchalovsky and Nikita Mikhalkov Andron as a tool for fighting with his brother Lawrence Konchalovsky?
 That he should, in general, was not vprotyk get a certificate of authenticity to the picture grandfather > -

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Сообщение от redbor; 2345881"

and for the addition of art involved I.Geraschenko, the same experts GRC and THG? And the cost of services comes to 250 tys.r.

I know nothing about any "GRC experts" on creativity Konchalovsky, except Irina Gerashchenko (I hope she knows the ways of dealing with seizure diaphragm contraction ... >) is not known, because nature is not exist.
Besides it, Gerashchenko "involved" not for art-examination. (That's probably, in part Ermakova). IV from 1970. collected database of names on painting techniques Konchalovsky, which allows it to independently carry out a significant part of technological research.
I also know nothing about the details of the relationship and financial claims within the clan Mikhalkov - Konchalovsky, not mine, I'm sorry generously damn business. I only allowed myself to share your opinion about the examination of paintings Konchalovsky. Peter Petrovich, and at times very similar to it in the manner of Michael Petrovich. (As P.I.Petrovichev E.E.Teri and who understands >) And that is I.V.Geraschenko (obykalas, I suppose, poor thing) - the only specialist similar studies which dealt seriously with the assistance of a huge (literally) technological base.
A truly expert opinion can be taken and Ermakova, and Gerashchenko. In the latter case, do not need to go for an opinion in the GRC >

Сообщение от redbor; 2345881"

, and the cost of services comes to 250 tys.r.

Yes, you! Zashib! I wish I - people incredulous. And while the bill for 250,000 rubles I see with my own eyes - I will not believe. >

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2346141

(As P.I.Petrovichev E.E.Teri and who understands >)

There is
Thierry on the forum.

And the second is the one thing of Thierry shishkinskih some suggest just work Petrovicheva.

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Thank you, look.
I remember my first impression of a still life with roses brush E.E.Teri : Gossspodi , but how many are his " Roses" is hanging in the meetings as work Petrovicheva !
Exhibition organized by the Gallery of Leonid Shishkin (honor and praise! ) - For the vast majority of the experts was the first experience in dealing with the artistic legacy of Thierry. Many , as I recall , and then stayed in a light stupor . > Some things - just what is called a Pap smear. Here you have the time, and canvas and paint, and stylistic similarities , and the build system . Well, respectively - and all sorts of visual signs of aging.
And who was known Thierry in the 80 - 90 years ? But none of the experts while practicing ! ( At least, not in the Grabar nor TG any of his work in the period under examination was not. Know? Yeah, I know ... )
A work Petrovicheva armfuls sold. In -the- by! And I - about the same ...