Andrei Erofeev dismissed from the Tretyakov Gallery

[Konstantin]

Allena
A rhetorical question.
In my opinion there was erosion of "values" or "culture" (in the sense of a man of culture). I, for instance, always go to the theater in costume, because for me the theater (I go regularly - once a month, and they will think that once a year) is a theater.
And many go in shorts and t-shirts, if in the summer.
We are with you on this object - oh censorship (ate for 70 years).
And we have to choose between two evils:
- Vulgarity
- Censorship.
Probably all the same - freedom from stress tacky, but under the Criminal Code (child pornography, calls, etc.).

[qwerty]

Сообщение от Allena

How do you think, qwerty, should a company protect itself from this, to put it mildly, shocking?

You know, this is a very complex issue, he inevitably falls into two others: first, what is "society" and, secondly, what kind of methods of protection? If society - is a crowd, the methods of protection - this is Lynch. If society - are law-abiding crowd, the methods of protection should be clearly defined in the Penal Code, and, therefore, must be protected from pornography, extremism and other things. Everything else, even if it is a complete abomination, it turns out - should be admissible.
Extrapolation of these arguments is the eternal dilemma - what is better: a guaranteed level of poverty (both material and spiritual) in a totalitarian system or the freedom of choice without any guarantee for democracy.

[Allena]

Сообщение от qwerty

If society - are law-abiding crowd, the methods of protection should be clearly defined in the Penal Code

From all this you do not agree only with the word "crowd" in the quotation (not for idealistic reasons), but it's not the point. Penal Code - it is really the only way to protect freedom of choice, but also people and write and accept. And, frankly, I do not think that at some methods to protect society in a situation like the one about which we speak, will be clearset in the criminal code.
Very interesting article yesterday read, good author. It is true that the formal literature, but largely about exactly what we say.
http://www.rulife.ru/index.php?mode=...=798&print

[Konstantin]

Another bar to the dismissal Erofeev.

Tatiana Volkova of the circumstances preceding the dismissal of Andrei Erofeev of GTG

But to all these particulars do not lose sight of all, I hasten to remind some facts. First of all, Andrei Erofeev, in contrast to all other members of the State Tretyakov Gallery, not just an employee, whom the museum invited as the head of the new structure of education. is a man who gave gallery priceless gift - he had assembled a huge collection of contemporary art of Russia, which, by law, though unofficially named "erofeevskoy. Of course, most of the works to date, legally belongs to the State Tretyakov Gallery, nevertheless the question arises: Does management GTG moral right to deprive a collection of its creator, and especially its disband?

[Meister]

as you like, but judge for the exhibition, even though bad, controversial art, NOT

[Nik]

Why is it not? I think that in any Muslim country for such a penalty!

[Nik]

Well, I think, yet not personal. Pictures for the most part still gave the museum staff, meaning that they will be included in a collection of the Tretyakov Gallery, which in itself is prestigious for any artist. So, as mentioned in well-known hero of the film: "Do not confuse his personal coat with the state!" (c)

[Meister]

Сообщение от Nik

in any Muslim country would be executed for such!

and for bribery and his head cut off. But something I do not see the flying heads. Thank God, of course, that they do not, although sometimes very much like (forgive me for my bloodlust, but sometimes just do not have enough nerve). And yet, is not there and not with the struggling. In the end, Nik, we live in a democratic (in the assurances of our government) the country or not? If we begin to judge the art, then let's really introduce laws Shiriata. Let us begin to judge of TV for the "wrong" program, writers for the "wrong" books, etc. Art can be judged only by the people, their positive, negative or neutral, but not the prosecuting authorities.
I am not advocating Erofeev, I am against the current situation as a whole. Yes, Erofeev not on their personal money collected collection, but it was under his leadership it was collected (mostly by donation). He is still in its Caricyno collected, and then when I asked him out, came with her to the Tretyakov Gallery, where and passed. By the way, yesterday, heard on the radio itself Erofeev that he was going to make the Museum of Modern Art, and hoped that this would support him Low Culture.

[Nik]

Сообщение от Meister

and for bribery and his head cut off.

Exactly! Therefore, in Muslim countries and there is no corruption. We would have them learn from this. Due to the absence of corruption UAE for 30 years became perhaps the most advanced country in the world. Hack head grafters mercilessly! I have nothing to regret.

Сообщение от Meister

art can be judged only by the people

"We have a court, among other things, popular called" (c) brothers Weiner. Era of Mercy

So let Erofeev makes the museum - will a serious matter, try what it is, nabet a cone - then, perhaps, more seriously, and pouvazhitelnee will apply to people. Although ... something I doubt that it will support the Ministry of Culture.

[Meister]

Сообщение от Nik

will a serious matter, try what it is, nabet a cone - then, perhaps, more seriously, and pouvazhitelnee will apply to people.

Nik, not so well, he's so not 20-year-old boy who decided vypendritsya in the art world. He is respected and is an excellent expert on contemporary art. It is wrong bezuvazhitelno relates to such a man. I'm not saying that I like what he does. But it is a significant figure in the contemporary art market.