VM Mariupol, "counselors", 1950

[SAH]

Сообщение от IrinaC

At the time of my childhood and adolescence could see as many works of great artists, theatrical productions with excellent actors, that my children in their childhood and never dreamed of.
Local museums with poor exposures, either the Fair, an event rate of 6 paintings, as with Monet, the price of one ticket for 25 dollars
on the Broadway musical family $ 400 tickets, but still need to get to NY

Irina.Ya surprises me feel lousy, cannot get on a plane tomorrow and fly to the exhibition to you in Kanadu.Pochemu? I need viza.Ya not free, my friends, residents of European countries are flying exhibitions, concerts and even just to ski ride but I do not mogu.Zanaves left, need viza.O what we say?

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

that there is no one to go and bring the sleeve into a museum to smell?
I do not believe there are people, city in Ukraine is not the last people you have there developed, peasants with Polesie.

And I think that they are not very razvitye.I with the peasants, they should not be compared because a farmer does his job, and museums, culture is another crazy delo.Esli Jury sees that the wall museum will soon collapse and they do not see what I would call their use completely different words ...

[Tana]

dire state of the country are paying the price now, many people (the U.S., the UK, many European countries, where socialism was not a vpomine) have recently been reporting from France on the healthcare system where in order to save medical personnel were sent to the Christmas holidays, resulting in an ambulance all night journey between the patient, because there were no hospitals, which would have qualified him to help, but examples from around the world can "dig up" a lot, but should it?
If you could choose from each policy, building only the best ...
Utopia work ...

both want the all-in-One: Free museums in Britain, freedom, democracy and freedom of movement for European, quality of education, medicine, guaranteed pensions, work in the USSR (now the American way of life can not do anything to find, perhaps someone add something )....
Ah, there is no perfection in the world!

-about how to help museums, so where is our glorious sponsors?
In the Odessa Art sponcory pay for repair of heating, abroad, many museums, too, "live" not only because of the state and the value of the tickets, but largely thanks to sponsors.
(the question of filling in: a number of Ukrainian oligarchs "begat" Dnepropetrovsk?)

[Ася]

Returning to the work of Mariupol. This work is offered for sale?

[IrinaC]

Сообщение от LCR

This impact sovkovskoy cultural policy, where the "art belongs to the people", entrance to museums has been virtually free, and therefore they had no equity - or a decent salary to employees, or the acquisition of new exhibits or repair.

It is also a consequence of the general sovkovskoy policy when one of the people sitting in the camps, and other mass was recorded in circles singing, folk dances and artistic burning wood, and techeneie more than 70 years, producing less and less, or at the immortal words of Bulgakov Professor, "if I, instead, to operate every night, will start in his apartment to sing, I will come chaos," For such a policy has to pay - that Russia and is now paying the price for sovkovskuyu ruin dire state museums, the disastrous state of the country.

Yes, I understand, those children who walked in circles, have been picketing the camp, and moms and dads, bringing a child into a museum, to whisper in his ear: Do not look, dear, it's stolen
You, Liana, as a teenager, were so unhappy and grieved about the fate of the people? Or, analyze the history is hindsight?

The poor state of the country was before the revolution
Stole da drank, the genotype of such

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Сообщение от Tana

now from the American way of life nothing can find, perhaps someone will add)

personal interest above the interests of society

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Сообщение от SAH

Irina.Ya surprises me feel lousy, cannot get on a plane tomorrow and fly to the exhibition to you in Kanadu.Pochemu? I need viza.Ya not free, my friends, residents of European countries are flying exhibitions, concerts Yes, and just ski ride, but I do not mogu.Zanaves left, need viza.O What are we talking?
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I do not want to offend you, dear SAH, but if you have money for tomorrow to sit on a plane and come to an exhibition in Canada, but at the same time at a concert in Salzburg and the Alps on skis turn to ride, then your visa will be provided without problems, and even multiple
I assure you, a large percentage of middle-class American continent to Europe does not attend, but visa problems there, "all good comes to us is not cheap"

[uriart]

Dnipropetrovsk oligarchs народил lot!
Only the case before them, no!
Take Mr. Kolomoisky.
Promised them a museum of history of Judaism is still not open! And about two or three hundred exhibits already collected for the museum store in the same Art.
What kind of trusteeship council you say?
No, no, and not expected!
Urban and regional authorities simply shrug otgovrkami and no more.
Everyone is more interested in land and other property which can be enriched.
A museum? Come on, and so will stand.
Here's another oligarch Pinchuk V. - he actually called for the museum, opened his own. Museum of Contemporary Art in Kiev.
Well, these oligarchs are not obliged to pay for city museums, and all here.
The city itself earns good money. Only where the money is flowing out, is another question.
In museums, temporary exhibitions are held constant, someone rents a space for them.
Where does the money received for rent? In the control culture. And then management allocates some pittance for the museum.
Miserable they are representatives of our local authorities! Drive them to should vzashey! Just as all that: "Hand wash hand ..."

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от IrinaC

you, Liana, as a teenager, were so unhappy and grieved about the fate of the people? Or, analyze the history is hindsight?

First, history can be analyzed only back number, but not the front, because this is not history;
Secondly, Liana and analyzes all of this to future teens, which is now spreading to x ..., unlike us, that everything was on the shoulder.
If they learn this, one can hope that museums will not fall apart. For example, Yuri is learned. Thank you so vines, which his enlightened time.

[SergeiSK]

IrinaC,
You write everything correctly and not going to cast pearls before these russophobe. They are all one, that the Soviet Union, that the current Russia, if only everything here was bad. Already agreed to the fact that the Union museums without repair and without the new exhibits were, that now in Russia "disastrous state", etc. Just amazed by such maxims ... These people as children turned the pages Solzhenitsyn, wrote in a letter to the UN protection Sakharov and a 10-year old went to Red Square to protest against the invasion of Czechoslovakia. Now about Russia, they are judged by opus Latynina and sigh for Nemtsov with Kasparov. Не спорьте с ними, их беречь надо и показывать детям, как редкий вымирающий вид. And God forbid that our children listen to these "analysts"!

[LCR]

Сообщение от IrinaC

You, Liana, as a teenager, were so unhappy and grieved about the fate of the people? Or, analyze the history is hindsight?

Yes, shrewd Irina, have to admit that you got me totally exposed! Indeed, blame, analyzed retrospectively. Forgive me this time, please, I will not!
As for my adolescence in a strict sense, at the time of our exile with her husband in 27 years, I came out of it, but I have not forgotten how, giving me the necessary papers for the OVIR, YCL history faculty of Moscow State University said that I characterized kind of "political immaturity", so that here you are right.

How well but that there are witnesses, thank you for your testimony first hand, now I will have no more doubts about the situation of pre-revolutionary situation in Russia, against the genotype is no arguing:

Сообщение от IrinaC

The poor state of the country was before the revolution
Stole da drank, the genotype of such

[Bullet]

Сообщение от Asya

Returning to the work of Mariupol. This work is offered for sale?

While I want to know, how much it might cost.
If you are interested in this work-Write in lichku.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от uriart

What kind of trusteeship council you say?
No, no, and not expected!

Should be and probably is.

Сообщение от uriart

city and regional authorities simply shrug otgovrkami and no more.
Everyone is more interested in land and other property which can be enriched.

One's not a hindrance: it is possible and the enrichment of thinking and get to work.

Сообщение от uriart

Well, these oligarchs are not obliged to pay for city museums, and that's all.

No obligation, that's for sure. But the uproar throughout the Ukraine, they can and should. I now think that in Lviv, for example, such a situation with the museum would not be possible.
Or from Russia so I only see?