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Язык оригинала: Русский #51 | |
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Гуру
Регистрация: 29.08.2008
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Kirill, it seems to me that there is no point in the debate. Sergei, after all, says that there is a conclusion. If there is no conclusion, then - no, and if there is - then there is ... What to think? ... I suppose that the right should be regarded as a genuine work, while the expert's opinion is not qualified disproved. If you think the work of questionable means you do not buy it. But the conclusion is. Certainly, the experts are wrong, but at this stage of data error on this issue no. Nevertheless, expert zakyuchenie - is an important component. Since the rejection and the documents leads to the fact that the only argument for the buyer (which is itself little understood), is "you respect me? .... He respects, buying, and then he druzhban (with a hard finished PTU) said: "No ... It's garbage!". And he ceases to respect and begins to demand money, scare, etc. I do not know how the others, I have different cases. I already have described that the etching is actually a copy of ... And the paintings can be taken for sale, but she is probably a fake, but then you need to pay for the examination, and it probably will be this . P.S. I absolutely do not understand anything Sychkovyh. Just formal occasions. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #52 | ||
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Гуру
Регистрация: 26.07.2008
Адрес: РФ, Самара
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I, too, and wanted only to hear the views of the creativity F. Sychkova under the nickname of Uri. Just his opinion, yes or no ... All.
No discussions. I immediately made the reservation, not an expert, but I do not see where I Sychkova. Asked to speak to the participants. Цитата:
About the purchase /sale and was not mentioned. Цитата:
Yes there is, and provenance, the previous owner Shemyakin. All in vein. And I say that I do not see there Sychkova ... I do not see! I can have an opinion on this portrait? |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #53 |
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I do not spend all the time on the Internet, especially in such a den.Kazhdy members of this forum has its mnenie.Svoe opinion I vyskazal.Na that note, this topic is closed for me.
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Язык оригинала: Русский #54 |
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Гуру
Регистрация: 26.07.2008
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Uri, is clear. You left to answer. Neither "yes" or "no" ...
I realize this is difficult, it is easier to show photos of paintings in group F. Sychkova fake and wait for the reaction of participants-will /will not work? |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #55 |
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Гуру
Регистрация: 12.10.2008
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At Helios F. Sychkova exhibited painting "Portrait of a woman in a white dress" (Poel D. Alexander). 1913-1915gg. Oil on canvas, 49,5 x62, 3 (according to the auction has expertise ВХНРЦ them. IE Grabar), pohozha the portrait, which is on page 1 of this topic has shown SergeiSK, and which has caused quite a "irreconcilable contradictions:
http://www.gelos.ru/month/feb2009year/art.html |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #56 | |
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Гуру
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Recently Moscow lover of the antique Alex Pel-Dmitriev, 40 years defunct detective on Presnya, found in one of them ... portrait of his mother. The picture was written early last century when fashionable folk artist from Mordovia Theodore Sychkovym. Five years ago, a former opera started in the apartment repairs and gave some things to store old friend. But he died suddenly, and other "friends house" immediately carried off rarities. Pel-Dmitriev conducted its own investigation. I walked all of Moscow's antique shops, and professional intuition did not fail - a portrait of "floated" it is in an artistic salon. By the way, the picture was placed on record in the Department of Conservation of Cultural Property. However, rarity was on sale, and with a solid cover of the paper - an expert opinion of a specialist Institute. Grabar. Of all people, and the art of such level may not have known about the orientation of the departments ... - I have the impression that the judge simply cooked the facts - says Alex Pel-Dmitriev. - For example, a blue dress, my mother in his paper turned white ... Could it not be that the portrait does not match the description in the guidance? ------------------------------------------------- http://www.mk.ru/editions/daily/arti...ntikvoryi.html |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #58 |
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Valerit, I thought that the work you have been sold ..
So, still you are >
Последний раз редактировалось Santa; 02.07.2011 в 03:21. |
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| Этот пользователь сказал Спасибо Santa за это полезное сообщение: | Toinen (02.07.2011) |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #59 |
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Авторитет
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Последний раз редактировалось Valerit; 03.07.2011 в 01:22. |
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