Problems and prospects of the Russian art market

[NATA NOVA]

artcol, and does not reflect the civilized EXP sovtoyanie market?


Here is the question on the market (civilized) emerged:

Here, for example, "successful artist" in sveh on their lips, but no sales of fixed stories ...
It's like, "from under the counter" (exclusively in the studio) are traded?

[artcol]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

artcol, and does not reflect the civilized EXP sovtoyanie market?

Already discussed .

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Here, for example , " successful artist " in sveh on their lips, but no sales of fixed stories ...

And what if there is EXP ? > Auction sale - it public (although there could be manipulation, but they have a price ), but the rating - is absolutely dark.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от artcol

And what if there is EXP?

artcol, then a legitimate question arises: is it not prepared EXP by selling stories?
On what facts supported EXP?

Can somebody explain to me specifically?

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And anyway, whether I shall need

EXP and sales history is not the same thing?

[artcol]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

artcol, then a legitimate question arises : is it not prepared EXP by selling stories ? On what facts supported EXP ?
Can somebody explain to me specifically ?

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And anyway, whether I shall need
EXP and sales history is not the same thing ?

Nobody knows . The forum is a thread with a discussion of this phenomenon.

And here

[NATA NOVA]

artcol, an enormous thank you!

Based on information gathered from your last post, these issues can be safely forwarded to Olga (which I am very happy)

Olga, please, please!

[Бурка]

Discussion about the market went in the direction of the market itself, a major player in which the buyer is . And it's not just fat cats . For " peanuts " and pictures of "known " and local artists - many of them in the cities and the edges are not buying , not because of lack of money and lack of spiritual needs . The spectator- buyer must be educated . This largely depends on the gallery owners . Then everyone will be nice and helpful .

[Ольга Озолина]

Nat is a link there and principles for determining the EXP , and where to learn it , and more:
http://rating.artunion.ru/index.htm

And about the market here , I read the theme and look that , by and large , global problems of the art market anyone except ZAGRAEVSKY , do not worry . Someone scolds EXP someone painting ZAGRAEVSKY someone brags that he knows of artists from Nigeria , and indeed the fate of thousands of LIVE RUSSIAN ARTISTS, whose paintings are not sold and there is nothing to eat, somewhere behind the scenes is obtained , which is a pity .

I think that while the spontaneous market remained somewhere in the 90s , but now we need to develop some general strategies , as ZAGRAEVSKY and writes (p. 3 topikstarternoy article). To do this, I actually here and this article posted .

[artcol]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

Nath, here's a link there, and guidelines for determining the EXP, and where to learn, and much more:
http://rating.artunion.ru/index.htm

And about the market here, I read the theme and look that, by and large, global problems of the art market anyone except ZAGRAEVSKY, do not worry. Someone scolds EXP someone painting ZAGRAEVSKY someone brags that he knows of artists from Nigeria, and indeed the fate of thousands of LIVE RUSSIAN ARTISTS, whose paintings are not sold and there is nothing to eat, somewhere behind the scenes is obtained, which is a pity .

I think that while the spontaneous market remained somewhere in the 90s, but now we need to develop some general strategies, as ZAGRAEVSKY and writes (p. 3 topikstarternoy article). To do this, I actually here and this article posted.

I read here here

24. Internet versions of the Uniform artistic rating does not exist. Any rating category of artists that are listed online, are valid only in the presence of references to printed editions of the handbook "Unified Arts Rating».

25. Artists, their heirs or managers may be granted certificates of the rating.

26. Due to the fact that the single feature ranking is constantly changing, refined and supplemented in the event of a discrepancy rating categories in the various documents and publications of priority shall be as follows (in descending order):

1) The certificate of the rating (for a specified period of validity to it);

2) a computer database of the Professional Union of Artists;

3) The latest edition of the handbook "Unified artistic rating";

4) The previous edition of the handbook "Unified artistic rating";

5) One feature links to other publications in the rating and the Internet.

Themselves are developing themselves appoint. It's funny.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina ; 1677931"

global challenges of the art market one

Because global problems , or Russian ?

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina ; 1677931"

and now we need to develop some general strategies ,

" Sucha theory my friend, and ever green tree of life " (C) ...

Olga Ozolina, WHY ? (" magic question ")
There is only one mechanism that can affect ( either ) the market is MONEY!
You can develop a strategy to platonic love .. but for what? What is the difference?

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

the global geopolitical situation in Russia and the world.

What does this mean?

[Fed]

Сообщение от Burke; 1677923"

The Spectator, the buyer must be educated. This largely depends on the gallery owners.

The bulk of the galleries, Sharashkina offices, commercial level that, maintenance, marketing is not even funny, but lame. I know the low number of do not fit into this picture. Why such a gap between the general trends of trade, I guess, but the simple answer is not sure.
   
In my opinion, contrary to the picture to buy their "work." Therefore, the assumption that the gallerists someone could "educate" simply fantastic.

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina; 1677931"

the fate of thousands of LIVE RUSSIAN ARTISTS, whose paintings are not for sale

No wonder - they want more for their real cost of labor and investment; Your rating illusion of value only fuels, focusing on "world prices" and even higher. But it is not oil or hemp, so prices should be the appropriate miserable wages of the society to which artists and belong. Good pictures on the shaft of $ 300 was not observed.
Bad buyers do not watch too, so massively planted the money in a clearly overrated commodity. Especially when many of the middle class have been to Europe and the "oops", and the prices out there below, and antiques for a decent, but not to "malyunki" God knows who.