The value of the underground works of artists today is much higher than their price.

[SAH]

Сообщение от "Fed

Order work in the studio folk artist (in the spirit of non-conformism and sketches) is still possible for 1500.

It's better to just book in the spirit of impressionism and the avant-garde early 20's, so to speak even more weighty price niches proven "And you can give 1500 to admire his heart's content, possibly as guests will not notice, do not sort out. "By the way on many auctions just such paintings, and trafficked, even the book does not have to take buy and admire a masterpiece " Here there are many similar goods: http://http : //forum.artinvestment....BB%D0%BA%D0%B8

[Fed]

And all the folk artists of Ukraine portrayed?
Incidentally, I looked (before writing) in the comparison are reduced and the folk who had in mind. Believe me, the comparison is not in favor of the above.

And where does impressionism? You know the folk working in this direction? He has a bad result?

[Станиславский]

Сообщение от Fed

Pavel always said - it is easy to buy and sell hard.
Eugene-regional artists interested in the regions.
The question arises (at dostavanii purse) - how many are working. Reduced cost approximately $ 3000. And none of the scanned database of auctions they do not have any records.

Who gets in this price category? Open at random results "Corners". And, whatever works, consider the names and prices in the 3000 - Hope Benoit, Gromnitskaya, Shovkunenko, Princess Olga Romanova, watercolor Glushchenko. Can we then sell them without loss, decide for yourself.

Understand the philosophy of a dealer, not a visionary. Conscious restriction of the market "brand" names good at inflated (that is to say the pre-crisis) economy. But times have changed: felt "tired of the material (well, how many times you can sell and resell the same Glushchenko?) And there is an urgent need for new, even daring and risky, projects. Such is the demand of time and progress. Therefore, the glory of those who first moves this difficult process. Them over time and reward them and staking out a place on Olympus domestic art business. They shoulder the difficult task of "intellectualization" of the market and proposed a respected public new and unexpected strategy for collecting. I think, is not far off the emergence of a new, more advanced generation of art collectors.

[Fed]

Сообщение от "Stanislavsky, 1306641

stake for them a place on Olympus domestic art business.

Or to hell losses of the same business.
Again, common words, without summing up at least some price base.
And here the new generation, old ... We are talking about the price and the price of new names (or almost known) should be adequate, but not comparable to the known and reliable investment. And then it will not be a speculative investment in risky assets, or adequate collecting and incomprehensible act of generosity (throwing money).

And what's "new strategy of collecting" and even more unexpected in this case?

[SAH]

Fed, I do not quite understand what you write and that is disputed by themselves say that the collector pays and wants to have a thing to the original picture in "my time" in his era. That's important for people who love and collect art. Actually even funny how you will explain it all here. Book everything from folk to 1500.

[Станиславский]

Сообщение от Fed

Or to hell losses of the same business.
Again, common words, without summing up at least some price base.
And here the new generation, old ... We are talking about the price and the price of new names (or almost known) should be adequate, but not comparable to the known and reliable investment. And then it will not be a speculative investment in risky assets, but an act of incomprehensible generosity (throwing money).

And what's "new strategy of collecting" and even more unexpected in this case?

Of course, loss of business is not excluded, as, indeed, is not excluded in the case of the "traditional" dealerships. Moreover, in the second case, the risk is much higher, because competition is strongly risen and are now actually like military maneuvers. While we can only talk about a "new strategy" of sellers (for the strategy are collectible in its formative stages and, incidentally, may be the subject of a separate discussion), which consists in the fact that, firstly, to expand horizons for the potential buyer of choice, and in Second, bring to market a new social segment of intellectuals and connoisseurs of "unformatted" art. Naturally, the "base price" as you call it, has not yet been formed, and in this way possible errors and exaggerations. But the road by walking.

[SAH]

Сообщение от "Stanislavsky, 1306741

Of course, loss of business is not excluded, as, indeed, is not excluded in the case of the" traditional "dealerships.

Stanislavsky, I would say that may not yet be ruled out, we can not exclude that one day collectors examine his collection consist of replicas and a half thousand and the small size and akvarelek also bought cheaply but with a hint of big names.

[Станиславский]

Сообщение от SAH

Stanislavsky, I would say that may not yet be ruled out, we can not exclude that one day collectors examine his collection consist of replicas and repetitions per thousand and a half and the small size akvarelek also bought cheaply but with a hint of big names.

Agreed. And anyway, what kind of bird is this - "People's Artist"? His chosen people, or those appointed? The answer is obvious. Anyone with at least some aesthetic sense, it is easy to distinguish a miserable hack, styled as "non-conformism, of a lively and sincere work, refuting vkusovschmnu mainstream and discovers in himself the germs of a new cultural fashion.

[Fed]

Persuaded. Buy one knows who made for the ceiling price, but with a pink dream in the dim far will some new collectors who suddenly buy it even more expensive.

What it brings - is a cautionary tale of Ernst Byler, translated LCR: 5 Gladilschitsa of Winterthur, or - as the lost money http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=87091

In addition to people mentioned as an alternative to pricing, I gave the usual way tsenoopredeleniya, and why there is a base of the site, but for some reason decided to get around, telling ignorant that people draw tuften.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Fed; 1306531"

But how diligent reader forum, I am guided by the views of the guru:
Pavel always said - it is easy to buy and sell hard to ...
  

This is so, I agree.

Сообщение от Fed

Eugene-regional artists interested in the regions.

Many of the Odessa-geographically-artists became known in other countries.
Here, just for instance:
Dyulfan, Mezhberg, Khrushchev, Roitburd, Voloshin, now Mas, a constant presence on Sovkome Gankevich.