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Старый 01.05.2010, 16:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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Correct Karahan, NG, need some positive ... feast on the street.

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Why do not they? Normal magazine, good artists on their forum (the site) write.
What kind of magazine ... It is impossible to register to leave a comment or participate in the discussion. Only through personal ties and their might write, masons were found. It is this freedom of speech and democracy in calling for freedom of speech and democracy of others? "



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Старый 01.05.2010, 16:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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It's called "Snob "..

Do you like this magazine? You have read it?




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Старый 01.05.2010, 16:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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Journal Snob "http://www.snob.ru/selected/blog/683

         
Cool magazine and a wonderful project in general:

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The international project "Snob" - is the only of its kind, a debate, information and public space for people who live in different countries , speak different languages, but think in Russian.

There may argue with each other famous Moscow writer, in love with cinema student, an outstanding British fashion designer and programmer interested in politics from Boston. Members of the project "Snob" is not shared by either geography or the degree of fame, age, or the difference in beliefs. Whatever they're doing and wherever they lived, they share an interest in the world around and willingness to act to make the world a better place.



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Старый 01.05.2010, 17:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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And what else? In the beginning of Lent, a letter veterans Luzhkov, it you do not like it? "Can not read it, but there still the case.

"In the case of" it is not when writing and speaking, but when a dignified old age for people who fought for their country. But in addition to a decent pension should be respect for their achievement. And in our country seriously discussed equating Stalinism and fascism. Svanidze distorts history as smartly as they did under Soviet power. What has changed? There was no respect for history, so it does not exist!

However, the difference is. When the Soviet government to teach respect to their own country, and now we are told historical inferiority and impose an alien culture our own media, which we are paying out of pocket. No self-respecting country in the world does not keep such information poilitki! Shame!



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It's called "Snob "..
Yes, I know that this magazine. The name he is very correct.
Snobbery. Snob - valued objects and phenomena, not for their quality, but only for the fact that these objects or phenomena are valued members of the elite, to koim snob wants to be involved.
Snobbery - differs from the hypocrisy that snob, not fully realizing who sincerely believes himself an intellectual (and whom I like it so ...)
Snob very carefully follow the rules of high society and ignore everything that goes beyond those rules.



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Старый 01.05.2010, 17:08 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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Dear "Tjutchev" where's sedition??
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".. In recent years, May 9 takes on new meaning for all who care about the Russian history. As we approach that date, the ideological confrontation in evaluating the role of Stalin in World War II, becoming more acute. For those who want to extol Stalin Today there are many tools for promoting their own ideas. The "snob" has decided to create a platform for the alternative statements. We believe that the art was and remains the best way talks on socially significant topics. This is why we decided to organize a May 9 show a poster of anti-Stalinist "NOT step back !».."

Dear, Eugene, you think I'm senile? (No offense, a rhetorical question)



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Старый 01.05.2010, 17:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #47
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Cyril Syzranskiy, ... . With this kind of your statements, the forum has become a laughingstock.
Dear Mr. Tjutchev! *

I bring to your attention the fact that such a proposal if you are applying is not a worthy man, but just mention any of his belongings, comments, ideas, etc., the phrase "your statements" is not is a polite form of address for the man. It just shows who owns this or that thing. Correctly write " your statements."

Do not overdo, I beg you, with courtesy. I would be in the direction of the COP "on you" did not apply. The hand is not raised. Perhaps, as an employee and he is good, as a member of the forum also benefit administration, but as a man ...

* To such treatment himself nickname oblige.



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Старый 01.05.2010, 17:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #48
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Well, yes, especially under Stalin (with TT at a temple) ... It's funny, sir ..
Let the competition will return ...

Eugene, I already wrote that the historical and political topics to talk on a higher intellectual level. This means that there is no point to go down to the level of incompetent propaganda.

Period of Stalin's rule - it is a very complex, contradictory time. Reduce everything to "murderous will" Stalin - this means to simplify and trivialize what actually happened. In the ruling elite Soviet union took place behind the scenes a fierce struggle for power. With the same success could come to power is not Stalin's faction and another, and then we would have talked about a completely different person as the head of the USSR. Stalin, like many historical characters, struggled for power with the same unscrupulous and overbearing people like himself. This happened, happens and will happen in all periods of human history, anywhere in the world where there are people! Such is the nature of people!

Do not forget about the role of the West in the development of the young Soviet state. The West has done, ignoring the interests of the majority of our population, in order to turn the development of political processes to their advantage. In this case, neither Europe nor America were not interested in the prosperity and welfare of our state. Using any means, even the most "dirty", Russia pushed to the brink. And it is not surprising! Because they do not need a strong and prosperous Russia. Now nothing has changed. The West's attitude toward Russia as a source of profit, and is now. Russians for their interference in their plans to control the wealth of our country. They need that would privratilas nation in population! The only way to achieve this - is to divide society and uproot the national roots!

History of Russia - is a great story! Its grandeur is just in its contradictions, its ups and downs in its drama. Any attempt to present our story in a Hollywood movie would not be tolerated thinking part of our nation! I'm talking about the present intellectual elite, not the monkey, talking nonsense on television!




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History of Russia - is a great story!
And who can argue? Yes, I keep forgetting to ask, but with a letter to the Veterans Luzhkov you agree? Or is it the CIA?
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veterans who disagree with the decision of the authorities, wrote a letter to MK
Moscow City Hall to the 65 th anniversary of the Victory is going to "beautify" the city of portraits of Stalin.
We believe this idea sacrilegious.
The role of Stalin - it is not victory, but the unthinkable, with nothing commensurate with the extent of losses.
Stalin - a rout of the army leadership, the destruction of professional military personnel in 1937-1938.
Stalin - this extrajudicial destruction in 1930 of hundreds of thousands of our countrymen who would in 1941 join the ranks of the defenders of the motherland.
Stalin - a collapse of the defense industry, shootings and arrests of the leading organizers, designers and engineers.
Stalin - a criminal and shameful collusion with Hitler in 1939, supplying Nazi Germany to Soviet raw materials and aggressive policy, for which the Soviet Union was expelled from the League of Nations.
Stalin - a monstrous political shortsightedness that led to the catastrophe of the first months of the war, when the Nazis occupied the vast territory and captured millions of our soldiers. For these achievements fascist troops Stalin did more than all the German field marshals and generals.
Stalin - is unprecedented in the history of an example of betrayal: the soldiers, captured by the fault-chief, were declared traitors.
Stalinist policies, we and our family felt the full even before the war and the war have seen no publicity points.

We know about Stalin's role was not hearsay. For us it is not tales of Stalin's textbooks and student outlines the History of the CPSU (b). It's part of our lives - at the front or the rear.

We have done everything for victory, not because so ordered Stalin - we are simply defending their homeland, which was many centuries before Stalin, and will continue for many centuries after Luzhkov.
Initially, one might think that the idea of Moscow officials due to their incompetence - nothing else can explain the words of Yuri Luzhkov of "Stalinist ten strokes, the story of which he could not find in today's textbooks. It's a cliche Stalinist propaganda has long been filed.

But after the first public criticism of the Moscow City Hall raced this demagoguery that has become clear: it is not just incompetence, but also a conscious effort to rehabilitate Stalin.

No one opposing the poster did not call "abandon history" and "black out the wrong page", as falsely trying to present officials.

On the contrary: it is on these pages - not "wrong", and the tragic - and we believe it is necessary to remember.

Naturally, during the Soviet era crimes of the communist regime did not condemn, and Stalin's crimes mentioned very rarely.
But after the Soviet government, for all the nearly 20 years in power, Luzhkov never on the streets of Moscow did not add any poster telling about Stalin's crimes against his own people, against the army.

And now for some reason the 65 th anniversary of Victory Muscovites offer new look at the products Stalinist agitprop.

We believe this decision is not just a personal affront to us all and for the people who won the victory. We are confident that this decision is an insult to the whole country, that it undermined the prestige of Russia.
Moreover, it undermines the very greatness of the Victory, inherited such an incredible price. It is unacceptable to the Victory Day hang portraits of torturers and murderers.
We call on the mayor of Moscow to rescind its decision.


Vladimir Kristapovich Kantian, a disabled war veteran, prisoner of the Gulag. Yuri L. Sagalovich, disabled veteran, Ph.D., a former machine gunner and scout. Olga Noevna Kosorez, veteran, volunteer, served in the exploration, radio operator and translator. Mark M. Rafał, veteran 1941-1945., Captain of marines, the defense of Moscow. Jacob Kostyukovsky, a war veteran and screenwriter. Lev Netto, a veteran of World War II, a prisoner of the gulag, party Norilsk uprising in 1953, Mark Solomonovich Neufeld, disabled veteran, honored inventor of Russia, Candidate of Technical Sciences. Lena A. Litveyko-Belyakov, a veteran of World War II, honored the donor of the USSR, a pediatrician. Semen Filippovich Marshak, a disabled war veteran, chairman of the veterans VNII "Stroydormash.
http://www.mk.ru/social/article/2010...h-moskvyi.html



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And who can argue?

Yes, I keep forgetting to ask, but with a letter to the veterans Luzhkov you agree? Or is it "incompetent propaganda" CIA agents?

The whole story with posters in Moscow - only the internal political tussle. Luzhkov made a statement in which he makes an enormous amount, on different occasions. These statements are injected through the media and widely discussed in society. But no purpose other than raising his rating, Luzhkov is not intended. Strange in this is nothing! Luzhkov, a politician, so what other purpose he may pursue? He received the sympathy of the majority of the population of the city, and then abandoned the idea. The wolves are fed and the sheep safe!

Real help the elderly and much-needed public the truth about the era we have not received! Everything is political demagoguery, understand! "Letter to veterans, too, has nothing to do with the opinion of the overwhelming majority of veterans. And then, and more - the essence of political technologies! Hunting you, the collector, to engage in debate on such political actions, when there are so many interesting topics about the art?



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