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Old 09-02-2010, 16:56 Original language: Russian        #41
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threw, because it is two different things. Course, self-education - the best investment. But we think the different assets compare. Self-education - investment in ourselves and in banks or stocks - it is, roughly speaking, investments in the assets of others as well as the assets managed by those people never fully known.


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100%chance of authenticity once again I repeat can not give anything, if the artist did not say "Yes, it's my job, but on antiques that can not be done, as you can imagine. A lot of pictures that were already in museums later identified as a forgery, or school .....
yet, should not be so dramatized with antiques. In most cases the deal still possible.


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And the fact that the thing will grow in value and there are no guarantees on antiques, it's like a lottery or securities, or perhaps real estate, something to gain and something to lose, and may in future, and several just swapped (всмысле win-lose).
Lottery and securities - is to invest in a modern artist. And as with antiques - is less clear: the work of this artist will be in demand and grow or not. You do not doubt the rising cost of Kandinsky, Matisse, Kirchner, or? but it is expensive artists. but take the first names of "Russian French - Lansky, Survage, Exter. I think there is also clear their future growth. If they are expensive, get their schedule, it is still quite accessible.
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If they are expensive, get their schedule, it is still quite accessible.
In Exter except graphics and buy nothing, the original painting is very small.
In November of that year at Sotheby's, London was sold to Venice for Poltar million, and everything else Not sold, Not sold, Not sold and understand why.
No, "the left-hand graphs" too loose, but the author a lot.

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Because when buying antiques 100%guarantee of authenticity can not give one.
There are examples where the thing is sold with a catalog of the exhibition, where there is an image of the work and know its fate after the show. Its at the exhibition and bought, then a personal three times, she was exposed, its description and reproduction is a monograph of the artist and albums.
Which in this case, for example, need a guarantee?




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Suppose I was ripe for something to invest in any picture. I want to try a small amount. Let it be $ 1000 or 3000.

What and where to buy? And can you buy something worthwhile for such money? And how much income you can expect (if at all possible)?
You want to purchase an item, and 100%win, and so human Aleksandr buy shares. Something would have to invest in such things, it must feel, and not necessarily something he would have been today in the price. Some may fall in price, some raised. We must take risks, no risk no gain.



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You want to purchase an item, and 100%win, and so human Alexander buy shares. Something would have to invest in such things, it must feel, and not necessarily something he would have been today in the price. Some may fall in price, some raised. We must take risks, no risk no gain.
Just do not be put on a "horse", it is desirable neskolko.Eto increases costs, but the likelihood grows that it is your "horse" wins priz.Osobenno think should be newcomers.



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It is necessary to buy just a beautiful thing, a good-quality paintings of the artist, hung on the wall of the house and enjoy looking at her. If the work of this artist will grow in value, generally excellent.
Do not come to buy paintings from the investment position.
Of course, well, for example, if your dog will give birth to most expensive puppy, but here in our house never had a purebred dogs, and dogs are friends and we did not even zadumyvalisb about the breed, when someone asked about it. Not even know anything about these breeds.
So it is with cats now. Yes, I know, all breeds are expensive, but we now have the second-generation common kitty, bezporodnaya ...



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Dear Sajman before investing the money find out how you'll be able to return.



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There are examples where the thing is sold with a catalog of the exhibition, where there is an image of the work and know its fate after the show. Its at the exhibition and bought, then a personal three times, she was exposed, its description and reproduction is a monograph of the artist and albums.
Which in this case, for example, need a guarantee?
Cyril Syzransky, and if this Katinka from the exhibition made up and sold as original with all the directories where she took part ?
Well flung idea who do not need



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but if this exhibition of Katinka made a copy and sold as original with all the directories where she took part ?
There are many signs that are virtually impossible to forge, and on which an experienced person can understand that before him the original, and not to redraw the picture.

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Do not worry, this "idea" is not new, this is an old trick poddelschikov, but there are moments that make the realization of this "idea" meaningless.




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Old 10-02-2010, 03:59 Original language: Russian        #49
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It is necessary to buy just a beautiful thing, a good-quality paintings of the artist, hung on the wall of the house and enjoy looking at her. If the work of this artist will grow in value, generally excellent.
Do not come to buy paintings from the investment position.
 Na moi vzgliad eto samyi razumnyi podhod k investitsiiam v art.

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emissions, because it is two different things. Course, self-education - the best investment. But we think the different assets compare. Self-education - investment in ourselves and in banks or stocks - it is, roughly speaking, investments in the assets of others as well as the assets managed by those people never fully known.
Dlia menia eto logicheskaia tsepochka - samoobrazovanie ob investitsiiah - analiz - vyvod - deistvie.

Dlia investirovaniia v banki i aktsii neobhodimy znaniia. Schitaiu ih luchshim investitsionnym materialom (dlia bol'shinstva), chem art.
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cayman,
An experienced person from the site told me * I have long ceased to raise the target. That you buy * Probably through this pass all the fans, you first bought mestnyh.kak vse.potom already have artists on stage in Moscow vystavkah.sleduyuschim promoted avtorov.I only comes otrezvlenie.chto investment is for professionals who have sources sbyta.a for fans is to sebya.dlya dushi.Vernut all the money spent is not possible even with the price increases will likvidnoe.a tk.ne all that. that liquidity is a very long time .
Buy for dushi.pokupayte the authors or from the family naslednikov.ne try to buy the old or untwisted-counterfeit more poloviny.vse turns in the market with a touch kriminala.ochen a lot of money tied up.



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