Attantion!!! Sotheby, s 25.11.13, lot 26

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Well, look . Watching and " fables with songs " can not hear .

And whether you know? But this is not the provenance , and just a hoax : November 30, 1990 at Sotheby's lot 58 was sold cardboard EE Volkova size 15h23 titled " Spring River ".

In but on what? I think but it is not able to view at Sotheby's , 23 years later , in the case, and that size fits ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от acetate

what size and fit?
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Neither the size nor the technique is not suitable.

[eva777]

Jane Doe, and Sotheby's is only Joana , the rest going out , I understand . The method is applicable Sandro, is one of the best in operedelenii fakes, you talk about it is useless , you probably know dozens of different ways to identify fakes , well, except for this course. And about sales , especially about the past , nobody has confirmed, but only " little bird ... " And about a crisis you do not know anything , probably because you have to sales of paintings , at least some series, which is unlikely to have the attitude that somehow he was more noticeable for you . And that does not rise twice about the price on Feshina on McDougall , who really just did not write http://www.gazeta.ru/column/rynska/3464817.shtml Suddenly you have not read .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Yes , all these fables " and you know where it was purchased ?" for beginners, all no longer listen to these sweet song about a fictional provenance .

One Moscow collector , bought a huge early ( shorter masterpiece ) Arkhipova, on opening day, or rather at the entrance - the owner of the money to pay for the entrance was not. What's the difference where a friend of mine Krymova with sex, one of the most mildly dubious galleries, it is a pity that it is a rarity . <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

size does not fit.

At Rada 20 x 29 cm, and at Sotheby's 15 x 23.

Well, it's little things, that if the meter.
How are you all so quickly find - surprised.
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Сообщение от Barvikha

Will PM.
Do you recognize???

Know "Brother Kolya", placed just so like, it's good.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

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Looked at another - embarrassing.
Any artist intuitively puts (builds) the signature that she was read and the only place to put in the work of the last point, let signature clumsy but always in place, here it is not, and tonally not included.

[Jane Doe]

Dear forum .

I want to address demanding an end to pour their anger yaruyu , exercise intolerance , negotiate my identity and bind me to the events to which I do not have any relation. Do not exert its effect latent instinct pack finished indiscriminately break anyone apart. After all, you people , and not bald , hungry wolves .
Instigators of this fetid stench eva777 and Sandro is groundless , based on their personal imaginations and distorted fantasies, my betrothed person with Sotheby's , ask for a public apology and stop pour their genetic hatred of the bourgeoisie at me. If you and others have claims to Sotheby's, to his level of expertise, to their employees - write open letters . Do not breathe poison on me , it does not address , and even infinitely stupid is not funny . Recently I wrote one Cancelled galeristka in PM : « Igor ! Cuckoo !!! » What is it? Do not know the person - not pozortes !

I did not want to argue about anything in this topic . I wanted the truth and wrote about it earlier. But different levels of understanding and interpretation of these words has led to such a scenario , what a shame for you to become a ...

Their entry into the theme I started with the words:

Сообщение от Jane Doe; 2854691"

The best provenance can be considered against the background of the photo of the artist his paintings . Is not it?

But topikstarter argued doubtful authorship portrait only upon comparison photos Sotheby's and a small black and white photo portrait on the easel in the studio Feshina .

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method applied Sandro, is one of the best in operedelenii fakes

Method of comparing the pictures shown on archival photographs lovely and informative. This one does not argue. But in this particular case, it led to this noise .
I mean comparing the unacceptability finished portrait with a portrait , still located in the unfinished stage.

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Funny your arguments about the unfinished nature of things ...

How ridiculous ? Early in the work on the painting is pure primed canvas . Then underpainting, and then 10, 20 , 50, 70, 90 %100 %pattern. No matter what and when a picture to compare? You will notice a 10%difference to the finished painting and painting, which completed only 90 %.

Quality of the comparison pictures are so low, easel lights left on, and the distance to the unfinished portrait played a major role in the development of this noise .

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Thank you so or anything and did not understand in order to understand what the auction work , I do not need a second look .

Tata. I asked you to describe the original picture Feshina , composition , background , and you have ignored . Yes, and I understand why . After the background and composition of two objects being compared are identical , and put on my question for you , I can give the answer itself - just do Copy Paste your description of " forgery ". But I would like to hear more about the smears in the painting workshop Feshina . That's right, they are something not seen , nor can see many details on the unfinished picture , which caused controversy in this topic .

So you and said :

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About the second one was not a word said

A very sorry . Would like you to give a lecture painting not only to me but also to Nikolai Ivanovich . After all, he writes something right and left background worse than students Surikovki . And about the figure falls out from the background , and it would be necessary to inform him that in his portrait (still on the easel ) , everything falls apart . Maybe it had to redo it.

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specifically Feshina in St. Petersburg for three days watching

You - 3 days restorers Feshina watched. Galina Tuluzakova - a famous art critic, looks and explores creativity Feshina 23 years old, studying archives, talking to people who own materials on Feshin and writes books that are very popular . And please , no hints about Grist received for false expertise and annotations in this topic .

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Thank God , neither I nor my clients are not going to buy this " Feshina " do not want to fight and then return it to you

I you do not sell anything , so you do not need me to return .

Сообщение от Barvikha ; 2857091"

Yes ! never ceases to amaze "large" knowledge workers Sotheby ! You should have passed a small paid course the basics of painting from Soviet artists of the older pokaleniya ! Net Komersant , without any technical knowledge ! Shame !!!

About Soviet artists of the older « pokaleniya » write their messages directly to Sotheby's . I had nothing to do . And from you , Barvikha, also ask for an apology for continuing disinformation campaign against my person . Would be a picture at Christie's , you would Eva777 and Sandro stuck to me there.
 
to extend Feshin .

Today I spent a lot of valuable time in some experiment .
Cut out a picture from the easel Feshina , slightly corrected geometry and cut within the boundaries of the visible edges. Then , Fit to without changing the proportions of the picture with Sotheby's .
Then Layered two images on one another and start playing transparency top of the picture. In the process of changing the transparency of photographs made ​​by 10%to 40%, 40%, 60 %. 70 %, 80 %, 85 %, 90 %. Retained all the file and below represent the demonstration.

In the dynamics of turning photos can be seen as an unfinished portrait turned into finished . All that changed in the picture , was applied Feshin between the day photographing in the studio and in the afternoon , when the painting was finished .
All dimensions , proportions, background shadows , composition on two identical pictures. Well, how could it be otherwise ? After all, it is one and the same work Feshina .

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Jane Doe, it is not necessary tantrums . And do not invent some baiting a bunch of members of the forum -" bald , hungry wolves " you, such all white and fluffy .
You are not white and fluffy, if you look at least where you accuse a person of a crime is not under an assumed name and surname :.

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Where to look and what gets paid expert Burliuk Yuly Rybakov? Maybe it is better to abandon this position and not to shame ?

And when an experienced and well-known in the Russian art market operators only slightly laughed homegrown "expert", you huddled in a fit and demanded that " stop pouring their anger yaruyu , exercise intolerance , and negotiate my identity tie me to the events to which I have not the slightest relationship ".

Calm down and think .

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Be able to defend their opinion with honor and dignity . Do not go to the individual . Everyone is entitled to their opinion , despite the fact that you like it or not.
Your knowledge and experience must admire many . So use your professionalism in the right direction

By the way, because of your repeated attacks on Yu.V.Rybakovu gone from the forum Amateur.
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And your " some experiment " Funny , of course, but it can be patented as a computer game " for Doris Nikolai Fechin ".
And we can also develop this game to release new games in the series - " Doris for Pablo Picasso ", " Doris for Marc Chagall ", " for Doris Jean- Michel Basquiat " , etc. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[Барвиха]

... Bald pack of hungry wolves chasing poor Lamb and wants to arrange a bloodbath ! New blockbuster director with Sotheby's . The commercial success of think - guaranteed ! 's That, I personally , and I advise you to further engage ! I wish you success in this endeavor ! Yes ! I apologize if you really caused such emotional wound ! did not want to Feshin , but not a lot to say. Fechin , with the beginning created blestatelny image took a photo on the memory , and then thought for a moment and made ​​the monster asexual ? ? ! And you know the way to the projection of the old photos on canvas and further refinement ? ? ? ? It's your picture ! And even then, the average half- created " transvestite " once again to study and learn , and not just looking at the pictures , but certainly, in the artists' studios , as they are created , to see with their own eyes the whole "kitchen" Artist! Otherwise, you have not seen good luck ! !

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Сообщение от Barvikha

Fechin, with the beginning created blestatelny image took a photo for memory

The painting on the easel in the studio N. Feshina completed course.
Artist and posed for a photograph was precisely finished product and not on the background of a semi things.

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Сообщение от Jane Doe

Tata. I asked you to describe the original picture Feshina , composition , background , and you have ignored . Yes, and I understand why . After the background and composition of two objects being compared are identical , and put on my question for you , I can give the answer itself - just do Copy Paste your description of " forgery ". But I would like to hear more about the smears in the painting workshop Feshina . That's right, they are something not seen , nor can see many details on the unfinished picture , which caused controversy in this thread ..

Very difficult to communicate with a man who does not hear you or or pretends twists phrases interlocutor distorting meaning.
 I repeat to you again , I work from the workshop did not refer to ( it only forced to pay attention to the subject ), and described the work of the auction , and wrote that it is not - it is clear. You are asked to describe in as much detail ( kompoz. , swabs , etc.) on a small photo of the workshop Feshina on which strokes and texture of course is not visible , but the difference can be seen in all parts of the work . I did not compare these elements work, I wrote about the work of one - read carefully. Ask me to describe in detail what can not be done , And do you have already done ! ! You think that it is one and the same work . You all looked at ! ( smears and everything else ) . How can you rely on this photo ! You even thought not admit that you can compare with the work in his head pinned down earlier. You saw identity background , and I do not, then you and smears spotted ..... and even on the extremely high quality photos. It is clear that Feshin pictured - the present , this means
it , so what? If it is impossible to consider in detail and can not be proved , and hence no liability . Who said that unfinished .... And if unfinished in any place .... and the percentage ...... Maybe so left ..... Or maybe not at all going to append . !
 

Сообщение от Jane Doe

So you and said :
A great pity . Would like you to give a lecture painting not only to me but also to Nikolai Ivanovich . After all, he writes something right and left background worse than students Surikovki . And about the figure falls out from the background , and it would be necessary to inform him that in his portrait (still on the easel ) , everything falls apart . Maybe it had to remake ..

Well I say , not what - emotional demagoguery , well so be you last time , do not distort , ( did not write about Feshina ) how to write to write background Nikolai Fechin taught Ilya Efimovich , in St. Petersburg , in the academy.
  A With regard to any professional background artist ( if it is not done for an abstract and N. Fechin was a realist ) Background around the head really different keys ( properly understood tonally as dark - light ), well and in color , warmer - colder too different under the natural (indoor) light - a shadow , lighter and cooler , as the shadow is warm, the artificial ( How often do Korovin - respectively , vice versa). There will always be that it is lit more than something you see in the figure slightly spread, Feshin - not Matisse or Rublev , and by the way , both painter and painter George Rublev . The illusion of space in Feshina classically constructed that for you so amused about space, it is in any work ( in this case, even any ..... ISTA ) and Rodchenko and Klucis .

Сообщение от Jane Doe

You - 3 days restorers Feshina watched. Galina Tuluzakova - a famous art critic, looks and explores creativity Feshina 23 years old, studying archives, talking to people who own materials on Feshin and writes books that are very popular . And please , no hints about Grist received for false expertise and annotations in this topic .

  Not invent , about Tuluzakova I hinted , and could not insinuate , sorry I do not have the honor of knowing , but about the examination even heard of. Yes finally read carefully . I just wrote that an expensive operation can be delivered to any destination. Whatever the origin , as was necessary, and then starts - know where to buy and how much you know . I think anyone should understand. And what is written in the announcement , I think not related to the topic of the lyrics , see above. If such a masterpiece that so modestly , after your example about the " Cowboy " .

  Over here I will not write , and you do not answer. By the way my tone quite peaceful to you , then you have to be stinging . Free training is over, druzm mates shop ( and they are) always happy to help - for the rest of the money. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

painting on an easel in the studio N. Feshina completed course.
Artist and posed for a photograph was precisely finished product and not on the background of a semi things.

Yes, artists do not like to show unfinished work.