Comparing some of the facts

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2639021"

" Black Square" , for example , the audience saw only in 1981 at the exhibition Moscow - Paris .

In June 2002, the State Hermitage Museum in the exhibition appeared painting by Kazimir Malevich's "Black Square" . The canvas was scientific expertise has been recognized to be genuine and all the more firmly integrated into modern culture .
A June 24, 2002 on the wall of a house on St. Isaac's Square, where he lived Malevich , there was a plaque co famous " Black Square " ...
http://siluet.org.ru/cgi-bin/texts.c...vich/djachenko

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Сообщение от khmelev

yes, but as I was in the process, it seemed to me that everyone knows what's what.
There are such illusions <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Yes, that is an accurate observation, as often happens.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2639021 "

Search work - yes, but you must admit , in the exposure of the avant-garde in the Soviet Union

Neither before nor after the publication in 1962 of the book of Camilla Gray is no " work " no one drove and did not plan to order any more and did not plan to let Gray in the archives It was " allowed" to her as a foreign citizen and daughter- SS Prokofiev ( big name in art history is still a lot)
But after the world comprehended its conclusions by comparing it to compare - that is where it began
All Russian Exhibition - from this number that's only exhibit works that are used in your museum , and carry out scientific research in relation to these works - These are two very different things
Work ( research ) , we still have no one makes, everything just expose Well, only if you do not consider the work M Valyaeva

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Сообщение от Maroussia

This was "allowed" to her as a foreign citizen and daughter-SS Prokofiev (big name in art history still means a lot)

Camilla Gray met with Oleg Sergeyevich only later "archives."

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Camilla Gray met with Oleg Sergeyevich only later "archives".

You know better

[khmelev]

Сообщение от Maroussia ; 2639081 "

Neither before nor after the publication in 1962 of the book of Camilla Gray is no " work " no one drove and did not plan

means neither Kovtun nor Povelikhina or young people grouped around Sterligova , nor many others, interrogates survivors , collecting literally sheets of paper on the remains of the destroyed archives - they no work is conducted to the highest sanction in the form of an official exhibition? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от khmelev

means neither Kovtun nor Povelikhina or young people grouped around Sterligova , nor many others , may question the survivors , collecting literally sheets of paper on the remains of the destroyed archives - they no work is conducted to the highest sanction in the form of official exhibition? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Do not forget to also Savitsky - Director created in 1966 by the State Museum of Art KKASSR .

[Pavel]

Сообщение от khmelev

there is some western mythology of the Soviet attitude to the avant-garde.
Since the 60's and 70's - since the publication of the book of Camilla Gray - search work in the Soviet Union was unprecedented. Dozens of people were digging the ground nose to find something worthwhile. Wool phone book, looking for distant relatives, some perish tracks, etc.
Yet know no one knew the name Chupyatova, and the late Eugene F. Gross, Leonid and Vladimir Chertkov Pertts have unearthed about him all that was possible. And so just about every Figurants very unobtrusive.
But the West is still created the myth of some mysterious Vitebsk professors, attics, garages, etc.
Thanks to him managed to push falshaki at Western auctions and keep the crazy prices at the vanguard of the book.
All this now sounds even somewhat romantic, but time is gone forever.
And to believe that the slaughterer Bukhara - Natanova grandfather - was somewhere bunch Kandinsky and Malevich meter size can only without conscience, and for a lot of money.

In the early 60s I was looking at the Gorky Museum of Russian avant-garde 20-30s is very well represented in the main exhibition, and 69-70 g of Astrakhan in the gallery they Kustodiev Korovin I copied and admired a lot of avant-garde works, I do not remember whose collected in the main exhibition Skokov , then director of the museum and the famous schedule. There was even a Chagall-sweeper.

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Сообщение от Maroussia ; 2639101 "

You know better , ...

Yes, I know that Camille Gray was not " SS Prokofiev's daughter ", which is a 53 - m died, and daughter accused Decision of the Special Meeting of espionage and treason and sentenced in 1948 to a court -three 20 years in a strict-regime labor camp (Article 58 - 1a) and confiscation of property of Lina Prokofiev Ivanovna (nee Carolina Codina , stage name - Lina Luber , 1897-1989 ) .

Сообщение от Maroussia ; 2639081 "

big name in art history still means a lot

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2639191 "

Yes, I know that Camille Gray was not a " daughter- SS Prokofiev ," which in the 53rd died and daughter accused Decision of the Special Meeting of espionage and treason and sentenced by a court in 1948 -three to 20 years in a strict-regime labor camp (Article 58 - 1a) and confiscation of property of Lina Prokofiev Ivanovna (nee Carolina Codina , stage name - Lina Luber , 1897-1989).

What do you mean ?
Well, God be with you and with all your calculations ...
So already , thanks to you , the impression that Camille Gray - an impostor , who has never been married to Oleg Prokofiev , has never worked in the Russian archives, all of which she wrote - it is a fantasy for the amusement of Cyril Syzran