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Старый 07.09.2009, 15:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #431
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Subject of new places for exhibition and sale - urgently topical. Many questions like:
- And in Gazprom
- And in the State Duma

From my conversations with people the impression that in these places - does not work.
From observations on the sides, it seems that the hotels can be interesting, at least in Moscow, I regularly see the pictures on the walls with information that is sold and bodies. Plus of hotels in the fact that there are many people, and being constantly new.



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Старый 07.09.2009, 16:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #432
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From the observations on the sides, it seems that the hotels can be interesting, at least in Moscow, I regularly see the pictures on the walls with information that is sold and the phone. Plus of hotels in the fact that there are many people, and being constantly new.
And all this does not work, as a rule, except for episodes. "Tourist shopping" usually is the maximum of $ 200-300. For more expensive work going on purpose, knowing where. This mobile work is good only as an aid. To build on this business, I think not. In any case, its effectiveness is not higher than business "in transition".
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Subject new seats for exhibition and sale - urgently topical. Many questions like:
- And in Gazprom
- And in the State Duma
My iron conviction that there is nothing at all, never sell. One of my (now almost former) friend - a high official of Gazprom - truly puzzled why buy paintings when you can buy a poster - a huge savings and does not look worse. Here, if you're lucky, we should seek "aesthetes" gazpromovtsa
Such little, alas ...



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Старый 07.09.2009, 17:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #433
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why buy paintings when you can buy a poster
Mark, in this case can be said another way: why buy now if it can get for free?



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Старый 07.09.2009, 17:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #434
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According to Gazprom, will try to report back to you tomorrow evening. For us at the seminar "Investing in art ..." will come five people there. Talked in the break.



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Старый 07.09.2009, 17:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #435
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Here, if you're lucky, we should seek "aesthetes" gazpromovtsa
Here completely agree. A goal: from Gazprom (or similar agency) - show the delegations, partners, etc. high level of culture and understanding of art ...; for the gallery - the possibility of energy transfer of financial flows in the cultural sphere (that is, in our modest budgets)



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Старый 07.09.2009, 20:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #436
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And here, as they say, everyone has his own approach. It all depends on the level of experts, which you have typed in the gallery
"Experts" - is also a sore point. Naturally, everything depends on the mind of the owner, but he, like any psychologically dependent on their environment, from relatives, from people whom he somehow obliged, many people are subconsciously influenced the course of affairs. Therefore, I believe that in our situation (as opposed to Western) will be effective gallery of "proper" place, or need extraordinary intelligence to act as necessary. The second option - a lot of money, often to take part in the most notable exhibitions and published. Worst case - young curators and kuratorshi with great aplomb and I am very glad that such authority as Saatchi had expressed in the same vein.

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From the observations on the sides, it seems that the hotels can be interesting
According to my observations, too. I have experience in dealing with a man who had no gallery, but the "wall" at the hotel. But he kept it as a cross between a gallery and shop. Ie he had to follow to "tourist" thing, too, were hung at the same time and expensive paintings. Circle of Friends was. And some tourists are also buying more expensive. Collectors know him too, but things of interest to collectors (I mean modern painting) in a place difficult to provide decent, although sometimes it is.



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Старый 08.09.2009, 09:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #437
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And all this does not work, as a rule, except for episodes. "Travel Purchase",
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I have experience in dealing with a man who had no gallery, but the "wall" at the hotel.

I will explain my thoughts.
I'm not talking about the walls on the floors for visitors (here Marc rights), and the Holes in the bottom of the big hotels. Usually when there are big hotels renting rooms at the press conference, and Holes are often used as a place for negotiations. So here, not only tourists but also the press and businessmen of different levels.



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Старый 08.09.2009, 10:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #438
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I'm not talking about the walls on the floors for visitors (here Marc rights), and the Holes in the bottom of the big hotels.
On the floors and hanging paintings on sale, always a big hall, as a rule, and in Samara, in the best hotel (not departmental, for their own) there are Renaissance gallery. Small, but there is something going on there.



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Старый 08.09.2009, 13:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #439
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and Holes in the bottom of the big hotels. Usually when there are big hotels renting rooms at the press conference, and Holes are often used as a place for negotiations. So is not only tourists but also the media and business
Hall - this is very good. If it can "lead" as the gallery. Ie access gallerist and artists (and audience) at different times of free and probably something like a duty, because the presence of someone who can answer questions for successful sales necessary.

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senting new opportunities for exhibition and sale - urgently topical
In St. Petersburg is now being plotted practice make it a show serious levels of business centers, where many places, even in large spaces. I would know the "corrupt" the result, I will ... Near Pl. Leo Tolstoy is being plotted, but the details I have not yet all known.



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R new seats for exhibition and sale - urgently topical. Many questions like:
- And in Gazprom
- And in the State Duma

From my conversations with people the impression that in these places - does not work.
From observations on the sides, it seems that the hotels can be interesting, at least in Moscow, I regularly see the pictures on the walls with information that is sold and bodies. Plus of hotels in the fact that there are many people, and being constantly new.
Can be up and running, if the goal is to sell, and view art as usual and respectable. But to the promotion of the artist or the gallery is irrelevant. To include promotion of the exhibition in the museum spaces, well-known galleries, this is accompanied by a relative shift of high status places on the artist and his works. Similarly, to unleash gallery, invited on favorable terms, famous or well-known curators to work with artists gallery. And all these actions PR PR PR on every corner. Unfortunately, art does not belong to the people and scared it away from him. Therefore, to promote the artist's opinion (eg, "It's wonderful!"), Bankers, tourists and just ordinary people (have nothing against them) have no meaning. Instead, the expert opinion of the artistic community-has. Thus at the initial stage is not important, sales are taking place or not. In the absence of stress the non-commercial sales of the art that in some ways, it elevates. But when podazhe for big money by accident (or rather, quite by chance) wandered the gallery oligarch or for minor money prominent collectors, celebrities, or just about this again trumpeted on every corner. This gallery owner or agent of the artist is always aware of where, when there are non-commercial exhibition, potentially "rich PR" with which the art of spin up artist, and tries to infiltrate there. In contrast, tends to show the artist's (or rather his work) to large (status) of commercial fairs, exhibiting extremely high (for a given artist) prices and, preferably, on one wall with the already "promoted" artists.



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