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Old 05-07-2008, 09:33 Original language: Russian        #31
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published a list of Top-200 main collectors of art in the world!



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Old 05-07-2008, 10:26 Original language: Russian        #32
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Admin Thanks for the information. It is curious that the vast majority collects contemporary art. Is that the followers of the principle of "take the work only from the hands of the artist?. Probably - yes, because most collectors - the Americans. The scale of their collections can imagine - I did not find the list of Rita and Herbert Batliner, and their collection is considered one of the best in Europe. Part of it exhibited in Vienna this year and can see that there were http://www.albertina.at/cms/front_co...t=1&lang=3. And there were two very beautiful Goncharov. Most users ever online was just in the hall of Russian avant-garde.

Eugene This is for me to "go there do not know where, but you are an expert!



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Old 05-07-2008, 10:54 Original language: Russian        #33
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Vendors Vacuum (interesting article)
© Maxim Kantor.
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We live in a world where the cost does not match the value, price does not match the quality and value - appearance. Art Market successfully reproduced these circumstances within itself ........

The publication of the text below - analysis of market mechanisms and the essence of what is modern art.

http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/artss/post64427450/



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Old 05-07-2008, 11:31 Original language: Russian        #34
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Become a little confused, but apparently the author of what is called boiling.
I was interested in the system artist-curator-gallery - this is an absolute tracing system with a brand-manager-distributor, working with any product. And in this context can make a prediction that the gallery will create a brand in general, without the artist, ie nameless paintings buy from different authors, and sign a brand, which will have the biography, and perhaps even living human embodiment. And I think I was late with the forecast?



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Old 07-07-2008, 10:25 Original language: Russian        #35
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qwerty Thank you very much. But I'm probably not very correctly expressed his thought. Try again. What you propose has already been raised and not a collector. Really? And as the ideas collected over a period not very new, I'm not a museum and not seek to reflect all that was in a separate period.
Generalising terms: we need the idea of allowing to build something different (in all senses). Price range of your choice - remains.
Offering these directions, I was guided by the following: to assemble a decent collection, four conditions must be met:
1. The market should be provided a sufficient number of the selected areas.
2. This work should be of sufficient quality.
3. They have a reasonable cost money.
4. There should be a concept, combining a selected work in a single whole.

I know quite a lot of collectors and I can say that the collections of my proposed name is practically no. This is understandable: at the time people gathered a collection of those names that have now become "great", they now little left on the market, and they are very decent money. That's why I broke the proposed names of two categories. And the names of the first category a few years ago were generally not wanted and only now appears of interest to them.

If you want to collect some very unique collection, it would seem, the concept should prevail over all else. For example, you can start collecting artists Saratov or pictures with images of birds - such as if no one has. I know quite a large collection of carriages Chinese rickshaw, also version of this series. Another thing is that if no one before you no thought of such a meeting, then it's probably anyone and do not need, and your collection will be very low-liquid, although I admit can bring a lot of positive emotions.



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In proposing these directions, I was guided by the following: to assemble a decent collection, four conditions must be met:
1. The market should be provided a sufficient number of the selected areas.
2. This work should be of sufficient quality.
3. They have a reasonable cost money.
4. There should be a concept, combining a selected work in a single whole.
Dear qwerty, of course I did not take into account the complexity of Clause 1 and Clause 2. That agree forgivable novice collector. Thanks again for your valuable advice. I hope they will not only help me to avoid hitting a gathering rickshaws.



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Dear qwerty, of course I did not take into account the complexity of Clause 1 and Clause 2. That agree forgivable novice collector. Thanks again for your valuable advice. I hope they will not only help me to avoid hitting a gathering rickshaw .
Yeah, rickshaws collect - a little fun: (

It is better to collect geisha: o

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LCR, I'm not a big expert in Japanese art, I want to ask: is the mid-nineteenth century, something of a circle Kunisady, Kunieshi or earlier?



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Old 07-07-2008, 18:53 Original language: Russian        #39
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Eugene,
In my view, Kantor, of course. And a hundred years ago this would have been originally. But now - alas, no. The average hypermarket - more than 50 000 products. More than just words in a dictionary the average housewife. Successful selling - yes, even just a stop on the product view - no promo unrealistic.
Forgive the cynicism, but in painting, literature, ... ..., - the same way. Brendbilding an integral part of any market in which the total supply more demand. Especially when the material cost - nothing compared with the image of things and its owner.
I'll apply it in practice, however, with two very important limitations: 1) promotiruemy "product" should I really liked, and 2) the buyer can never deceive. Here, perhaps, that's all.
Yes, I really like your forum very useful, correct, and even some soul-warm, so my "thank you" sincere.



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I'll apply it in practice, however, with two very important limitations: 1) promotiruemy "product" should I really liked, and 2) the buyer can never deceive. Here, perhaps, and all.
Paintings, antiques are not just "promotiruemy product, everything is much more complicated.



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