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Сообщение от neborator

because such Galicia wrote in A

Title Galicia came from the city Galich, which was the first capital Galicia-Volhynia.
Name as Golitsyn comes from the word Holytsia-leather glove without lining, although it must be noted that when writing Latin was traditionally used akayuschy option names: Galitzine.
Perhaps the confusion comes from here.

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Сообщение от redbor

There was no prince nor in Paris, anywhere.
 This Prince Vladimir Golitsyn. (Another error in the caption under the photo).
 Simple: there is a list of princely families of Russia.
Names of many, Galitsyn-single.

If a typo, it is not the only one on the internet such options are many, and particularly from the Russian emigre.
I think the rights Kirill Galitsyn become established abroad because of the peculiarities of the Latin writing names.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

write Latin traditionally used akayuschy variant names: Galitzine.

I think the confusion comes from the fact that about Golitsyn could hear everything through basically the same song, but if Vysotsky or someone else wrote a song ala Well Well you Galitsyn you prince or what? Then, no matter who did not raise the slightest doubt that there were Golitsyn and Galitsyn ...

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Сообщение от neborator

According to the descendants of the prince, Antakolsky made unspecified number of busts

Descendants apparently also Galitsyn? Good luck to them ..
I, in principle anyway. Can you believe that the man was on famili Galitsyn, you can even utveozhdat that there Prince Raman.
 Just to support the conversation, I can say about some elements of fantasy themes:
1. Princes (and Counts) Galitsin not and never has been. (Ramanovyh, too).
 Just look, for example "A list of award-winning maternity leave and persons of the Russian Empire. Publication of the Department of the Governing Senate Heraldry " or
"List of princely families" on the site Heraldry House of Romanov .
   http://www.geroldia.ru/
  In the old Golitsyn were Catholic monks and priests, Catholics. But they did not name his mangled and called "Golitsyn"
2. Also, does not exist examination TG 2000 with two signatures for 180 rubles.
3.

Сообщение от neborator

10 years ago, in the Tretyakov Gallery said that such a bust Antokol's'kogo can cost thousands of 300 green, but it is supposedly on vskidku, but the owners then refused to sell it.

Not now, not 10 years so successful, or more generally, the assessment in the Tretyakov Gallery is impossible ...
 Although, IMHO, if this bust is really a genuine work of M. Antokolsky, the 200-300 thousand dollars is quite a real care in the auction.

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Сообщение от redbor

Descendants apparently also Galitsyn? Good luck to them ..

No, they have a different name

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Сообщение от redbor

Princes (and graphs) Galitsin not and never was. (Ramanovyh, too).
Just look, for example "List of award-winning maternity leave and persons of the Russian Empire. Edition

How do you know? I have no reason not to believe the man, but if that is what you most care about, look for August Galitsyn or August Golitsyn who lived in the late 19 th century, and everything will become clear. Link to the website you gave does not give a complete list of the nobility, where, for example of Lithuanian and Wielkopolskie modes? And what have Ramanovy? We watched the just about Golitsyn - Galitsyn, strange, but the tribe of well-known Prince Golitsyn, and women, Princess Galitsyn ...

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Сообщение от redbor

there is also no examination of the State Tretyakov Gallery in 2000 with two signatures for 180 rubles.

Today he took a photocopy of the receipt, where black and white: Receipt to Receipt number 41 taken from the ....... Background: Examination of further description, SK Department Dr. of Sci-pv TG followed by the name, to understand what kind of hard, toli Krasnikova toli Prasnikova further sum of 180 rubles. stamp obtained at the bottom of the signature of the cashier. As for Nikityuk I understand correctly, they first approached the Pushkin, that's when something with Nikityuk and communicate. A photocopy of this document, so that you are mistaken about the examination. To err is human, not rastraivaytes. I like all the same to anyone what a surname, how much expertise and so on, I did not go into details, I was told what I wrote. The main thing in this story of a bust. You yourself think, they do not want to sell their name and not a receipt from the examination and BUST!

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Сообщение от redbor

Not now, not 10 years so successful, and in general, score in the Tretyakov Gallery is impossible ...

Nikityuk said, not Tretyakov

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It is clear that they want to sell the bust. But in some strange way.
Such a bust, be it work poddlinnaya M. Antokolsky,
 can easily cost about $ 200 000.
 Moreover, - I did know a man who could buy it. Therefore, interested.
But there was many fantasies:
 - Tolley were a bust in the Tretyakov Gallery, Pushkin or omitted in
- Assessment of the State Tretyakov Gallery, passed on to the assessment Nikityuk,
- Money for examination, it is unclear who signed,
- Former owner of a defunct name.
If the real issue - we must begin with the examination, it will facilitate the further questions.
 You can look at the scan act? The larger truth about the subject of sale. so luchshe.IMHO a serious thing ..
  

Сообщение от neborator

Antakolsky made unspecified number of busts,
 entirely of material considerations (on the life of money needed)

 An interesting passage. but such a bust so far only in the Tretyakov Gallery and saw. Is their whole of their party?
 (Back to Galitsyn invented - that's all dvoryaine: Polish, Finnish, Lithuanian, Abkhaz, etc. ...
  http://tinyurl.com/24ztnze