Auction Oct. 25, 2008, Mr. Triumph of Socialist Realism "

[Евгений]

1.Lot 153.Avtor: Fedoskino, Zhdanov Ya.Ya.
Name: Casket "Ordzhonikidze, Stalin's funeral.
Year: 1944
Technique: Papier-mache, tempera, miniature painting.
Size: 18,8 x17, 3х8, 5.
Valuation
price, rub.: 350000 - 450000
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2.Lot 163. http://www.sovcom.ru/auctions/lot.ph...3&status =
Author: "Paleshskoe Association Vsekohudozhnik artists.
Title: panel "mowing" in the frame.
Year: 1939
Technique: Papier-mache, tempera, miniature painting, wood.
Size: 41,2 x45, 6.
Valuation
price, rub.: 1600000 - 2000000
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I never thought that so much does it cost .. We know.

[Allena]

Сообщение от Samvel

for me art has to be longing and alienation.

Samvel! We Nagibina (if not mistaken, the story is called "You'll live," but not sure), I somehow came across the statement, then my (very young) look absolutely wrong: "In science, technology people unhappy nothing significant will . Now I'm ready for this to subscribe and add: "and in art." You know why? Ability to create - this is happiness (let's not only pathetic, but simply a human). If a person is necessary as air, then he is already in a sense, be happy - and pour out their anguish and alienation on the canvas just physically can not. And if the "creator" feels sorry, as Eeyore at the time of detection of the absence of a tail, it has prevailed in terms of search of the tail, rather than creativity. Reread: get a bit muddled, but I hope, understandable.

[Konstantin]

Title: Casket "Ordzhonikidze, Stalin's funeral.

Horror. Vampires otorvut with his hands.

[qwerty]

Сообщение от Samvel

Incidentally, if there is a masterpiece, it Dejneka.

There are some serious doubts about the authorship of this masterpiece. Work in principle, is rather weak, see for yourself. First, it violated the proportions: the left girl is in water deeper than the others, dozhno be vice versa, and you can certainly assume that it landed in a hole, but why draw a picture? Secondly, look at the expression on the faces of girls: there is no joy in the appropriate bathing, there is a strong determination to build communism. Third, the foam around them made a very clumsy, and reminds the trail of the last torpedo boat, but not from three fragile creatures. Fourthly, it is for the freight in the background, designed to improve the romanticism of the situation? In-general, everything is much like ordinary compilation: Samples are taken, the idea of different paintings and mixed in a common stew. It is unlikely that such a strong master, as Deineka, this could create.

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Сообщение от Eugene

Ok, here's a sea ... relax, swim. Especially Kuprin AV -painter from the circle of "Jack of Diamonds».

Kuprin had in the Jack of Diamonds, and has become commonplace mediocre socialist realists, boring and uninteresting, however, this has happened to all the great "jack", but Falk.

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Сообщение от uriart

But Pasternak here and Pasternak - a clone!

Exact comparison! Moreover, the clone - unsuccessful. This poetic masterpiece hangs in Moscow for six years, and maybe more. No clone of rest.

[Glasha]

I agree completely with your "debriefing" running girls, I had the same feeling, but you all very precisely particularized, maestro, what to say ...

[Meister]

Сообщение от Allena

Note from Samvel
for me art has to be longing and alienation.

then it's not art, forgive me, but God knows what. Art should just be happy and positive emotions, calm, balance, or vice versa ignite ... actually, anything but not upset. If it upsets you, throw the works or sell someone else. Hence, it is absolutely not your art. However, I have mostly socialist realism causes depression and alienation, but I try to not touch him ... A couple of names nothing, of course, but no more ...

I was most pleased at this auction Konchalovsky 36 years for 600-800 thousand dollars)))) I had to put pounds, and suddenly? Comparability with the reality of the same would have been ...

[Glasha]

Autolithographies, as I understand it, implies the handwritten signature of a living artist, or simply lithography. It seems there is no signature, why is "auto" and such a price?

Author: Shukhaiev VI
Title: Portrait of Stalin.
Year: 1937
Technique: autolithography.
Size: 27х20.
Valuation
price, rub.: 55000 - 75000

The issue is likely to sss and Wladzislaw, as specialists in the printed schedule, which has already explained a lot.
Perhaps the only thing that I was not clear.

(More experienced when printing, offset prints are just as autolithography such and such "for a low price, which in my opinion discredits autolithography, among which are his masterpieces, and each of which is essentially the original (if color, then a unique) keeping the energy alive, direct contact with the artist (sorry, again pathos, but it's true ..)
PS now trying to fight for good autolithographies Lansky German auction, if successful, would be happy)

[uriart]

Sure!
When Konchalovsky napi__ fats this masterpiece, so just to please the authorities.
Like, here you are, zhrite, here's Socialist Realism!

[Самвел]

Сообщение от uriart

If we remember that the concept of art must be the joy and pleasure

What to remember? Of course, I was kotegorichen not vazhno.chto it brings joy or current, it is important that, would it bore, or something or other. general impression that as-bud-then who is it you \ people \, said that life is good, where you have such confidence.

Сообщение от uriart

I can not remember read somewhere that the word art has a meaning and the concept of delight.

You never know what can be read, must have its own view of things, I also read in a textbook at the institute that \ Concrete is an important material for the Building of Communism \ At the expense Deineki. someone said. that the person should be happy, or why, he wrote it? more reason the better. And if you see one, and I another, it does not mean vice my view. Little did prozvedeny of art that bear, depression, distorted posture, and even fear, of this they do not cease to be a masterpiece, and generally impossible to think or write is not a disease. And vsetaki here on the forum, most simply raskrutchiki, managers, and etc. Although Gabriel Laub, I be fed, but there's something in his words.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от qwerty

serious doubts about the authorship of this masterpiece

Now that's a little bit more interesting .. but so far only words. You have seen live this work? Just write negatively about a picture if you do not like this slice of Russian painting nesolidno.Ili write specifically, but the work saw looked several experts, collectors, my opinion is shared by a different matter, and obtained "kitchen conversations".
It is clear that you are working with avant-garde, Russian emigre, and there 70%falshaki, but transferred to the Soviet painting the situation with the fakes in the forefront? Probably too early, there are thousands of fakes, there is considerably less.
Is it too examination should take a look ..
Forum: Investing in art, and the authenticity of the picture is the basis of pricing, any competent discussion, I think only benefit.