Продам: Selling now Oleg Tselkov

[ранжер]

At still in doubt?

[Konstantin]

Yes so much clearer. The first picture - class.

[сергий]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Yes, sure. In my opinion similar to the present, but in this case is not ready to take a final opinion, because what I saw live was better. And much about the pictures of the house itself Oleg Nikolayevich (with photos FAIv) say nothing - masterpieces. The Internet is one of dignity and it is the same drawback - it is publicity. If you leave the conversation on this, then the seller will most likely problem with this picture, because a plume of doubt. Yes and no right to leave the question hanging in the possibility to find out. We have the opportunity to communicate with rubles, but not directly, and it will take time.

Konstantin, I have no possibility of contact with Oleg.
But discussion of the topic has not given me reason to doubt the authenticity of the painting.
She gave me in 1996. after exposure at the exhibition alongside
works Nemukhin, Belenko, Drobitsky in the international project "Chernobyl Russia, 1996." All work submitted to the International
Federation of Artists.

Here are pictures of available sites and offered me portret.Chto we are seeing?
Formation of the artist or becoming an expert last resort in our forum? To publicly confirm that no attempt to vtyuhivat falshak. I sincerely thank you all for participating in the discussion of my theme.
I hope for the continuation of the "scandal" with the actual proposals in the personal.

Sergius.

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Сообщение от Konstantin

We have the opportunity to communicate with rubles, but not directly, and it will take time.

It was nice b! We wait! Thanks in advance!

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Сообщение от Sergey

She gave me in 1996. after exposure at the exhibition alongside
works Nemukhin, Belenko, Drobitsky in the international project "Chernobyl Russia, 1996." All work submitted to the International
Federation of Artists.

Yes, interesting story. Himself was interesting was, what will end it. I am a very creative Tsalkova know little periods there, early-late. I saw the truth, both of them, but consideration to their position with-"it" /"is not it" even thought did not arise ...
I, frankly, presented in Sergei image composition itself seemed somewhat clumsy-flower over his head, probably, in my view, flattened somehow, the impression that he was too small, it "crushes" the top edge
the image is, the impression that they shoved him into it painfully awkward ...
But this could be attributed to the failings of the young author, making the repetition in a small format. I do not know, I do not know ...
But, it would be interesting to find out, the more so that here the author gives the theme exactly provenance, the history of acquisition and not to believe him in this case, no reason. A?

[ранжер]

Could you say more about the gift, with specific names?

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Сообщение от ranzher

But, nevertheless, the pictures carry several formal features, which allow us to definitively say that this is a fake.

Did not want to publicly dismantle these formal features, but, apparently, have.

There is a familiar collector, specialist in Falk, who described how in the middle of the 90's gang of counterfeiters who were based in Israel, then from time to time offered him their next opus. He explained to them in detail, why a little thing not Falk. So, each new fake no longer contain errors earlier. Quickly learn to "master".
We naedyatsya that our handyman is not out of the team.

Let's start with the front side.
Author forgery can not do color stretch. At least, so brilliantly, as it is obtained from O. Tsalkova. Just look at him any work, even the photos posted in this topic to see a huge difference.

In the 60-ies Oleg Tselkov worked fine colors, what color was the one and squeezed, no mixing. Simulator mixes, matches colors, trying to get to the color of the original. The result - not the exceptional intensity of the color that is present in the paintings Tsalkova.

I'm not going to talk about the obvious flaws in the composition. Assume that it is as if one of the options failed, for some reason is not destroyed by the author.

We turn to the reverse side.

From the photographs we see that this is an ordinary art canvas.

We Tsalkova at that time there was such a canvas, because they were not in the stores, like many others, and in the shops of the Union of artists selling only their own.
Tselkov bought in special shops sewing workshop so-called crinoline, fabric built into the suits between the main fabric and lined to maintain shape.
He pasted it on the aviation plywood, which is subscribed to by his father at a factory in Tushino allegedly for the needs of Horticultural house.
Special glue for such purposes, too, was only in the SC, so you had to use food gelatin, bought with hard kilograms in grocery stores.
And on this fabric glued to plywood were written at the time painting.

I leave frame and stretch the canvas. We assume that this was done by someone afterwards.

Proceed to the signature. It is made, it seems, but the writing did not realize that Tselkov never wrote a technique, that is, in this case, oil on canvas, but only the size, as in the example.

These formal criteria, I think, quite enough to confidently identify these pictures as fake.

[ранжер]

Сообщение от ranzher

But, nevertheless, the pictures carry several formal features, which allow us to definitively say that this is a fake.

Did not want to publicly dismantle these formal features, but, apparently, have.

There is a familiar collector, specialist in Falk, who described how in the middle of the 90's gang of counterfeiters who were based in Israel, then from time to time offered him their next opus. He explained to them in detail, why a little thing not Falk. So, each new fake no longer contain errors earlier. Quickly learn to "master".
We naedyatsya that our handyman is not out of the team.

Let's start with the front side.
Author forgery can not do color stretch. At least, so brilliantly, as it is obtained from O. Tsalkova. Just look at him any work, even the photos posted in this topic to see a huge difference.

In the 60-ies Oleg Tselkov worked fine colors, what color was the one and squeezed, no mixing. Simulator mixes, matches colors, trying to get to the color of the original. The result - not the exceptional intensity of the color that is present in the paintings Tsalkova.

I'm not going to talk about the obvious flaws in the composition. Assume that it is as if one of the options failed, for some reason is not destroyed by the author.

We turn to the reverse side.

From the photographs we see that this is an ordinary art canvas.

We Tsalkova at that time there was such a canvas, because they were not in the stores, like many others, and in the shops of the Union of artists selling only their own.
Tselkov bought in special shops sewing workshop so-called crinoline, fabric built into the suits between the main fabric and lined to maintain shape.
He pasted it on the aviation plywood, which is subscribed to by his father at a factory in Tushino allegedly for the needs of Horticultural house.
Special glue for such purposes, too, was only in the SC, so you had to use food gelatin, bought with hard kilograms in grocery stores.
And on this fabric glued to plywood were written at the time painting.

I leave frame and stretch the canvas. We assume that this was done by someone afterwards.

Proceed to the signature. It is made, it seems, but the writing did not realize that Tselkov never wrote a technique, that is, in this case, oil on canvas, but only the size, as in the example.

These formal criteria, I think, quite enough to confidently identify these pictures as fake.

[сергий]

ranzher, Dear RANZHER, recall a similar situation ...

... ARTinvestment.RU /Investing in Art /Art Market: analyst forecasts and
Season Autumn - Winter 2008 ". Summary price forecast Russian Trade
ARTinvestment.RU - 21.11.2008,

Hereinafter:

Oleg Tselkov. "A man with a lemon. "1962.

 Estimate: 50-70 thousand pounds
Forecast AI: below the estimate, rather, "not sold"
Result: 109.250 thousand pounds
Comment: A very strange Tselkov. On the one hand, recognizable and comfortable size. On the other - very unusual for the plot (that for a man with a lemon?) And the country's palette. Perhaps an explanation of - the year of establishment, 1962 first. Early Tselkov, very rare. This is interesting, and in this lies the problem: he has not yet become "so rubles, it is felt. Therefore, the prospects of this item AI looks with moderate pessimism. Perhaps the price will not reach the lower estimate (70 thousand pounds) or the thing will remain unsold. Fight for it is unlikely to be: good work Tsalkova on Russian bid will exhibit plenty of ...


Information and the official word on a possible forgery.

Dissection of the formal features have not convinced me.
In "Men with lemon" is also uneven color banner,
cheerless palette, different anatomy ...
Unusually for Tsalkova and writing, the creation of work on the front side (in the lower left corner - 62) ...

The presence of the canvas and held in very great demand (even then), an artist, I think, should not be cause for concern. Things could be situational, as in not less underground Anatoly Zverev (with which God has granted me a drink of creative anguish and port).

 Formally folding carpenter meter difficult to measure even the "Red Square" by Malevich - in contrast to the black he scalene.

But this argument idle.

My argument remains the same - could not the president of International Federation of Artists - Edward Drobitsky provide for the display of original Belenko, Nemukhin etc. and counterfeiting rubles. Shortage in the author's work was not.
Then, why? Why was it necessary to drag her out of Moscow in the Chernobyl zone in the exhibition "The Age of the gene. In transit through Kiev and Chernobyl, on the territory of which I wore it on hand, as an icon with the face of a clown king of heaven?
(The rest of the left from the station in a container, and this low-dimensional stayed with the group was met and a helicopter - Kiev Chernobyl - Korosten - got to the exhibition). Participants of the festival "Chernobyl Russ, 96." and international creative action "atomic world. 10 years of radioactive flood" did not doubt the authenticity of the "Portraits of a flower."
It was all true except for a nuclear explosion.
(In my performance "The tree of death" - was activated by a TNT staff army simulator atomic bomb.)

There are informal indications. Admit that I was able to persuade only further Oleg. But why?
Who believes that the proposal has a chance to write.

Sergius.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Sergey

agree that I was able to persuade only further Oleg. But why?

Site Administration proposed to turn to the author (there is a possibility), we must wait and all will become clear.
I agree with Constantine, a man he was serious, because words just do not brosaetsya.

Сообщение от Konstantin

Yes, sure. In my opinion similar to the present, but in this case is not ready to take a final opinion, because what I saw live was better. And much about the pictures of the house itself Oleg Nikolayevich (with photos FAIv) say nothing - masterpieces. The Internet is one of dignity and it is the same drawback - it is publicity. If you leave the conversation on this, then the seller will most likely problem with this picture, because a plume of doubt. Yes and no right to leave the question hanging in the possibility to find out. We have the opportunity to communicate with rubles, but not directly, and it will take time.

[Seriy]

A man with a lemon-powerful job at a high level, the color is not too childish, IMHO.