The inscription in German?

[Amateur]

With difficulty making their way through the actual characters old German Gothic handwriting script still seems to have
decipher the name of the author's paintings. Inscription (see first picture) reads: "Gemahlt von Mathilde von Hartitzsch", that should mean "Written by Mathilde von Hartittssh. First, it is written with a mistake: by modern standards Language was laid to write "Gemalt", as it turned out not to "write", and "is ground (as grinding flour). But "the noble people" do not always know how to write correctly in their native language, even Frederick the Great wrote in German, with gross errors, preferring to speak and write in French. And it is possible that in the old rules of language were different. Secondly, the name Mathilde von Hartitzsch repeated in the inscription on the glued piece of paper (see second picture). About born von Hartitzsch there is an article in Vikpedii, by the way, there are several spellings of the names: Hartitzsche, Hartitz, Hartic. About itself Matilda also has something on the Internet. She was born in 1800, and
died in 1886. In 1831 she married Count Hermann zur Lippe-Weissenfeld and changed its name. About what she drew, I could not find the data, but then in the education of every "noble maiden" to teach drawing.

On a piece of paper stuck in the first line above could make out the word "von Sachsen", ie "Saxon" (see third picture). It turned out that one of the ancestors (grandfather?) Artist, namely, Georg Adolf III von Hartitzsch (1708-1777) was head of the Chamber (Landkammerrat) Elector of Saxony, and other ancestors, too, served Saxon Elector, ie relationship with Saxony available. Read the entire piece of paper has not yet happened, but my German friend, about which I to you, Eugene, wrote, and who probably could do it, still silent, most likely, he is on vacation. Here are the results so far.

[Amateur]

By the way, about the tree. It depends on storage conditions and the species of wood, and paintings still try not to keep the street in the rain ... I have a picture in the collection in 1832 on a wooden basis - keeping the same as that of Eugene. A winter landscape is the beginning of XX century on the plywood - Save the back side as after a fire. And paint survived surprisingly well, we can say is ideal, although they were initially terrified zasizheny flies: I think that was hanging in the kitchen or dining room. Wood furniture in XVIII - XIX centuries, perfectly preserved, even in places where there is no painting: You can verify this, go into any palace in the suburbs of St. Petersburg, and look in the catalogs to sell antique furniture can be. Boards Durer still remain, and how many tens of thousands of impressions from them was made during the time from the XVI to XX century ... Yes, and more can be done.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Amateur

Here are the results so far

Amateur, fantasy, and survey your talent is impressive!

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Amateur

Wood on furniture XVIII - XIX centuries, perfectly preserved, even in places where there is no painting: You can verify this, go to any palace in the suburbs of St. Petersburg

Go, look.
Compare whether the furniture and paintings on wood turnover?

Сообщение от Amateur

Boards Durer still remain, and how many tens of thousands of impressions from them was made during the time from the XVI to XX century ... Yes, and more can be done.

A board Durer "wood?
And how many of them-wood?
Do it now, it prints it with wooden planks?

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Amateur

I have a picture in the collection in 1832 on a wooden basis - keeping the same as that of Eugene. A winter landscape is the beginning of XX century on the plywood -

Specialists in painting technique reported that a tree (for pictures) was prepared specifically did not take a hit piece. Colors well preserved wherever protected against the ingress of air flip side, even if it just closed somewhat dense. Another is set to grip with the base colors. Therefore, they survived on the plywood. Today, pictures can be on the reverse side with polyethylene cover, fastening it with tape. Harmlessly and effectively, at least partially.

[uriart]

Amateur, about Cardell disagree.
There is clearly readable Gachett

[Amateur]

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Amateur, about Cardell not agree.
There is clearly readable Gachett

Let me explain the course of my thoughts when identifying words Cardell. The first letter can be read as C or G. But the first letter of standing in front of me and proposed the name Gerome (in the correct identification of the word I'm not entirely sure: let's say, 50%) can only be a G - see box above. But the tail from the first letter of the name is clearly not so - it almost and there, so that there is more likely the letter S. I think that on the second and third letter "a" and "r" no doubt about this. The letter "r" is written as a Russian "h", but even 30 years ago precisely because of the German language and encouraged to write. In the fourth letter to you, apparently confused by a vertical bar, and you read this letter as "h". In fact, this bar - a different color than the inscription itself, very little difference, but if you select in Photoshop it is color stroke (done via the option Replace color) and fill it, then we obtain what is shown in the figure. After sledana inscription on the back of the canvas with a strong surface relief. The true image, mingled with the shadows of this relief, and write something on such a surface without distortion is difficult. I identified this as a letter "d" in its handwritten XIX century - see box above. Concerning the fifth letter "e" we have no disagreement. You read the last two letters as "tt". But in the words of Diest, and in much worse surviving letters "t" in the word Antoinette perekladinka in "t" is extended to the right. This is most clearly seen in the word Diest (see box above), but the second "t" in the word Antoinette same broach perekladinki right too visible (the first "t" there remained poor, and probably guessed, than read). In the second letter the same in the analyzed word no perekladinki in general, and at first that something may be, and be seen, but with wire to the left. So the word Cardell, in my opinion, more likely than Gachett.

Further actions include: checking, and whether such Cardell, whether there is such a name at all? It turns out that he was: in particular, Friedrich Philipp von Cardell (1773 - 1834) - a famous Prussian general, the brother of an even more famous by General Carl von Cardelli. Moreover, it appears that this is the Friedrich Philipp von Cardell was none other than her husband depicted in the portrait of Antoinette von Dienst! And then the probability of identifying words Cardell becomes almost a certainty.

A relatively Gachett no such certainty. First, while we should not focus on just Gachett, but about "von Gachett". Every course, it happens, but in my opinion, the prefix von somehow does not blend with the surname Gachett, there would be more appropriate prefix de. And secondly, the Internet there is absolutely no information about the "von Gachett", although there you can find information on almost all aristocratic families of Europe.

Shall make a reservation, of course, confidence is never one hundred percent. For example, I'm not sure of the name Gerome. But as Albrecht Durer, wrote: "Let someone better than me, seeing my confusion, convincing to refute them in his future work. I look forward to it, for thereby will contribute to the discovery of the truth."

[Amateur]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

is it possible to compare the turnover of furniture and paintings on wood?

And why not? Both are made of wood, the conditions are the same.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

A "boards Durer" wooden?
And how many of them-wood?
Do it now, it prints it with wooden planks?

Yes, basically, wooden (Holzschnitt). He had more iron and etching the board (not preserved), and the copper matrix for in-depth print. But Cyril, much of this you can not not know. Why question?

According to the publication of [Albrecht Dürer. "Sämtliche Holzschnitte". Berlin: Ausgabe der Deutschen Buchgesellschaft, 1938], there are 346. Now prints from Durer's original boards do not, they cherish, from 1880-ies. do only heliogravire. But, in principle, technically possible, like the original boards Altdorfer prints made back in 1930.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

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And why not? Both are made of wood, the conditions are the same.

No, of course, not identical.

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Yes, mainly wood (Holzschnitt).

And I have until now believed that there were several Durer engravings on wood. Rest-etchings.

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now prints from the original boards Durer do not, they cherish;

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Boards Durer still remain, and how many tens of thousands of impressions from them was made during the time from the XVI to XX century ... Yes, and more can be done.

"Cherish" is you have correctly written. Cherish!

[Amateur]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

No, of course, not the same.

Yes? I do not see any difference. Do not trouble you to explain what the difference in the conditions of furniture in the rooms closed heated space and paintings hanging in those same areas on the walls?

In Durer total of six (6) etchings [Zvontsov VM, Shistko VI Etching. Technique. History. St. Petersburg: Izd. Aurora, 2004]. They are made in years 1515-1518, with the iron plate, the most famous of them - "Big Gun. While not yet opened the mixture of acids, capable of good corrodes copper. Later, Dürer etching away from, preferring incisal engraving on copper (possibly after getting acquainted with masterly engravings Lucas van Leyden), and favorite them holtsshnittu. Durer's etchings are extremely rare, because the iron boards are broken and rusting, so reprints excluded. I had not seen the proposals of etchings by Durer, and I think that their price is several tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. This, of course, is only about the lifetime originals, not copies of the later-heliogravire.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I'm up to this moment thought that there were several Durer woodcuts. Rest-etchings.

It is also considered, and Marcantonio Raimondi, when copied Durer engravings, and to make his monogram and selling a work by Durer. Raimondi (himself a famous engraver and draftsman) believed that Durer cuts on copper, and did not think that such a filigree technique is possible at all on the tree. Such plagiarism Durer angered so much that he went to Italy and handed it to the court for Raimondi - the first in the history of the process of forging works of art! Durer won the case by proving that it is filled with engravings on wood, and Raimondi, make copies on copper.