How to prepare for the examination?

[dedulya37]

So. Well, gentlemen. Brake.

Pasha, let on a new, once more in detail tell me (that can) about his painting.
You always try to help.

[Pasha]

Lord, I have found answers to questions. Valid link, fill out the fields to me, will explain the situation. In short, my question, I can now be formulated as follows: "What are the options for registration of ownership of the painting, provided that the painting donated by the author personally, without any evidence. The author is no longer alive, but to contact the relatives do not want to" .

As for the mode of communication of individual forumchan, it is their personal inferiority complex, could thus they try to assert itself. I do not think that a decent man allowed himself such liberties with the personal touch.
It was correctly noted by the doctor asks the patient a formula for the reaction that would designate a course of treatment. Only a professional can speak the language of filing.

As for the caution, several times I put emphasis on the fact that this is only my principles and I do not doubt the intention of responding.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Pasha

The author is no longer alive, but to contact the relatives do not want to ".

In other words, you are afraid that "light" now, family members can bring to it their rights?

[Pasha]

Сообщение от dedulya37

In other words, you are afraid that "light" now, family members can bring to it their rights?

I do not rule out this eventuality, like many others, that may occur. After all, where money, sometimes honesty ends.

[dedulya37]

Pasha, how to write OlgaV:
The evidence on the ownership pattern does not happen. The advantage of our time is that your assertion that the painting was in your family for many years weighs as much as deed of gift from an unknown person or such a certificate of inheritance. Something to prove you need only if you are accused of stealing a painting or fraudulent purchase it. For sale is sufficient attribution or provenance, at least in Russia, Ukraine, progress can go on? ...
a picture of the passport does not happen.
This is the same property as your desk, chair, furniture in the apartment, etc.
If you believe in non-criminal paintings, boldly bounds to its examination, will receive a certificate of authenticity, and you will think about the sale if required.
This is not your duty to prove "that the picture is not yours, but somebody else.
And I would advise you to give a personal mail your phone to one of our Kiev forumchan and "live" to discuss this topic. (eg vyadem)

[Pasha]

Сообщение от dedulya37

Pasha
If you believe in non-criminal paintings, boldly bounds to its examination

Criminality pictures, you can create if you wish. I do not know how you do, we have sold everything if it is profitable.

I have understood correctly, COA said only about a picture, and certainly no way binds the picture with the owner?

[dedulya37]

Pasha, you understood correctly.

[vyadem]

Сообщение от dedulya37

For sale is sufficient attribution or provenance, at least in Russia, can progress in Ukraine went on ?...

to the point ... progress can go on further, but in Ukraine, he is clearly not looked ...
Karina as previously sold to the examination, if required ... the auction can take without it ... and then in the directory simply write "Publication of this directory confirms the authenticity of items" or something to sort of .. But everything depends on the level of the picture. When it comes to 10 thousand, then they themselves will do ... or as a contract.

Сообщение от dedulya37

is not your obyazyannost prove "that the picture is not yours," and somebody else.

Presumption of innocence ...

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Сообщение от Pasha

picture of criminality can be created if desired. I do not know how you do, we have sold everything if it is profitable.

Well it's more like a 90 th and reket bazaar )))...
Revolve, now things are much better. Auction houses, for example, only interested in top-lots ... and nobody will think of that picture stealing, etc. .. scandals are not in their interest. But they also need to keep your ear to the dire ... in all its nuances.

Сообщение от Pasha

I understand correctly, COA said only about a picture, and certainly no way binds the owner now?

Yes, this only ensures the authenticity of the paintings.
Unfortunately or fortunately, to connect the owner of the painting, especially if it is already much more than you, it is not possible! ".. At least I have not seen this. You read recently there was an interesting news about the picture of Van Gogh and Yale University http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...t =???????????
themselves and understand everything as it happens.

[Pasha]

vyadem, Good day, I understand you countryman
Examination of this process, in this difficult for me predugat final document. What is the examination and a document output?
And the pressing question, what version of the Ukraine used to obtain ownership of the painting?

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Сообщение от dedulya37

This is the same as your sobstvennoyat table, chair, furniture in the apartment, etc.

These words should be written in gold and hang out for all to see!